There are also salary surveys. But, the important thing is to make a case WHY you should be paid over what the survey says as average. Also, you have to look at things from the perspective of the employer. will your boss go to bat for you to keep you if you quit? There is a cost to loosing an employee. This also represents risk. Perhaps they get someone better than the employee they just lost. Perhaps they get someone much much crappier. Who knows. We all like to think the interview process tells a lot about a person, but it doesn't and many people interview well, but can't walk the talk.
Personally, I would get your friend to pull a salary survey (may have to pay a few bucks for it). Then take it into their boss and have a good 4 or 5 examples* of what they have done and make their case for why they deserve to be paid above average. Preface it with, "I really enjoy working here, but I've got a family to think about..." etc etc.
It's a lot easier to talk about it than do it. At the end of the day, while I've had success asking, I prefer to just jump ship. I'm working a move right now that would bump me up about $60k in total comp + a company vehicle. We'll see how it all plays out, but I'd be laughed at if I asked for that kind of bump in comp from my current company.
*The examples should NOT be, "I did x and I did y." It should be, "I did x and that generated $xxx,xxx,xxx,xxx,xxx value for the company." In essence, point out the value your achievements have created, not just the achievements.
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avocado wrote:Good to see you back, I was starting to miss your incisive commentary!