I wish I only paid $5000/year for health insurance. To compare directly, I paid more last year for health care in the US then I did during the 28 years I lived in Canada combined.
I paid roughly $5,000 total for my family's medical, dental and prescription needs. Also, the figure includes paying 100% out of pocket for insurance, so you are going to find it rather difficult for me to buy into Government health care.
Also, you are not going to get away with the idea that you paid less for health care for a combined twenty-eight years in Canada. The truth is you don't have a clue as to what you individually paid for health care in Canada because their health care coverage is embedded into the tax code. I understand that Canada health care does not pay for dental and prescription coverage and thus you would pay less for such coverage as opposed to your entire health care coverage here.
I agree, why are Americans paying 15% of GDP on health care for the same quality of care they're getting in Canada for 9% of GDP? If you'd like statistics on the quality of care, I'd refer you to the comparisons made by the World Health Organization in their 2000 report which is the most comprehensive. The link can be found above in this thread.
Two reasons as to why the cost of health in American has soared compared to Canada or France. First, Canada and France does not have to deal with the massive immigration problems that the US has. Twelve million illegal immigrants paying nothing for coverage but yet still receiving coverage puts a huge
burden on the rest of the payers. Second, the health of Americans are of lesser quality than the Canadians thus need greater amounts of care which costs more. Do you propose Government mandated diets for the obese in order to achieve the 9% canadian GDP rate?
This is irrelevant, if it costs less and the individual benefits then it's a no brainer. Personally my experience has been that dealing with the government has never been as problematic as dealing with my insurance company when it comes to health coverage. Of course, I'm comparing the Canadian government for health care to the US private insurers, my only experience with the US government was with the Department of Homeland Security for my immigration and I'm not confident it can be reasonable compared. I have no idea what makes you think that would be the case. In Canada it's illegal to refuse treatment for any reason. Just to clarify, I am NOT supporting universal health insurance, I'm supporting a socialized health care system. You seem to be under the impression that I'd support one of the health care solutions proposed by Hillary or Obama which is NOT the case, I think both of those systems will prove in inadequate since they rely on private insurance and private health care facilities.
The idea is not irrelevant. Doctors and hospitals have already determined that they are going to make certain dollar amounts in profit. Doctors, nurses, medical technicians, and hospital administrators are some of the brightest American citizens. What makes you think that practices won't close if doctors can achieve greater wealth in another field? Do you propose the Government force doctors to keep their practices open?
Also, Hospitals currently are not allowed to turn away patients but doctors who practice privately can and do turn away patients. Are they going to be forced to accept patients with Government health care? You see this issue is not as cut and dry as you make it seem.
I again refer you to the fact that Canada spends 9% of GDP to the USA's 15% and the WHO's report on the quality of care. No this is certainly not the case, I would encourage you to scrutinize all the assumptions you make.
I gave a rational explanation as to why American health care coverage costs more for the US than Canada. Also, I try not to make assumption and thus why I proposed the assumption in the form of a question.
It's certainly close enough to make the comparison since it is one of the most privatized systems in the world, and many of the benefits gained by socializing health care, such as collective bargaining, and a universal claims system are negated.
Hardly, the Government is firmly entrenched in the health care and private insurance business. Also, I was off on the percentage of health care in American subsidized by the US Government is 45% and not 60%.