Why do I oppose Obamacare? It goes well beyond Obamacare and into the excessive lawlessness of the federal government as a whole.
When the Supreme Court (a conservative one!) says it's lawful, it's lawful. Or is this news to you? Are you a law scholar? Or are you just making stuff up? Ever read the Constitution? If the Court upholds something, it's Constitutional until/unless the Court reverses itself.
I also oppose medicare and medicaid because anytime you have the government paying for something, the price goes up.
Some statistics, please? My dad is an engineer. I made the mistake of believe that because he's an engineer and bases his opinions on actual data, that all engineers are like that. I was apparently wrong about that. My bad.
Also, for this reason, I oppose higher-education grants. But most people cannot look beyond their immediate self interest, nor can the look into the past to see the trends that bear out my statements. There's a reason why medical and college costs are rising faster than a teenager's erection in a Las Vegas bordello. Obamacare will only accelerate this trend of higher prices even more.
Again, I'm asking for some factual evidence about your contention regarding healthcare costs. We've discussed education costs elsewhere. That's off topic.
I also opposed raising taxes on "fringe benefits" when the Congress said that the "rich" were taking advantage of these to get better medical care than the workers. We used to get free healthcare insurance back in the 1970s. How's that "taxing the rich" strategy working out for you personally today? If you're truly looking out for the welfare of others, you should oppose any tax increases on any small segment and instead support tax decreases across the board. Of course, the government would need to spend less to accommodate this, and that apparently is not going to happen.
Actually taxes are the lowest they've been in decades. Marginal rates were 70% for the top bracket in the 70s.
You really like to play it fast and loose with facts, don't you? You're so off base here that it's not even funny.
Chart government spending over the last 20 years alone. In 1990(ish), the budget went over $1 trillion. The non-budget spending now (there hasn't been a federal budget in three years) is at about $3.5 Trillion. Has your income risen by 350% in that time? Even more telling, has the median income gone up that much? So, why is it we let the government spend itself into a hole that we're going to have to eventually get out of? Digging deeper, the present plan, isn't going to get us out of this.
Stay on topic and don't go off on tangents. There's a whole thread on the National Debt (complete with charts) in this forum. Read it. The facts, with real numbers, are all there. We'd been reducing the deficit from its all time WW2 highs constantly except for 2 periods: when the Reagan tax cuts were in effect and when the Bush (2) tax cuts were in effect (which they still are). Go argue your case there, but come armed with facts and figures.
Basically, the government is so far beyond its mandated duties that we're quickly approaching a caretaker state. From that, it is a small step to dictatorship. The more the government does "for you," the less freedom you have. Just remember this post when your grandchildren are in chains. (That's called "figurative speech," and it alludes to the financial burden the government is putting on our progeny. I sincerely hope it does not become a literal outcome, as it might.)
Oh great, you're trotting out a retread of the "if Social Security passes, the Communists will have won" argument. The government's mandated duties are spelled out in the Constitution, among which "promote the general welfare"
So, am I angry about Obamacare? You're darned tootin' I am. But I'm angry because of what it represents, not because of the legislation itself. Unless something changes radically, the US is doomed to become the modern-day failed State. Greece, England, and Rome (Italy) used to be the superpowers in their times, too. Look at them in the world today and see the future of the US when this policy (and its ancestral big-government policies) bears its inevitable fruit.
It seems to me that unless we forcefully throw off the oppressive government we're getting, my grandchildren are not going to have the chances I have had.
Wino, no disrespect to you personally, but you haven't really cited much in the way of facts unless you're going off topic. And as for going off topic, as I mentioned above, there's a whole thread on the National Debt and government spending. As a matter of fact, if you look that some of the posts in this thread, there's a link to where the CBO and crunched the numbers and determined that the ACA will actually reduce the National Debt (August 6 post).
Geez, I saw you coming. I said:Despite the points in the original post and despite this latest CBO assessment, the opponents of the law will continue to hammer home the same points to their audiences as if none of this information existed. They won't even try to refute it; they'll just pretend that it doesn't exist. And the vast majority of their audience won't bother to look up the facts for themselves. They'll just echo the same points as their leadership.
And here you are!