Am I financially independent? (And does it matter?)

It’s been two years since I last looked at my overall financial situation to determine whether I have the resources to meet my goals. In those two years, much has changed.

I sold my condo and bought a home in the country. I repurchased Get Rich Slowly. I invested in not one but three other businesses. The stock market has bounced around, I’ve begun part-time work at the family business, and I’ve made many other minor adjustments to my daily life.

With all of these fluctuations, I’m naturally left to wonder: Am I still financially independent?

As I’ve mentioned many times, financial freedom exists along a continuum. For the sake of this article, I’m discussing the fifth stage of FI, the point at which investment income supports standard of living.

 

the-road-to-financial-freedom

At the end of 2016, I was FI (but only just). What about at the end of 2018? Do I still have enough saved to fund my future indefinitely? Let’s find out.

The Raw Numbers

Here are raw numbers that describe my financial fitness:

  • My net worth at the end of 2018 was $1.33 million. If I liquidated everything that I owned, I’d be left with a pile of cash worth that much money.
  • My investment accounts contain $680,000. Of this, $275,000 is in regular investments and $405,000 is in tax-advantaged retirement accounts that cannot be accessed (except with penalties) until I turn 59-1/2, which is in just under a decade. (My non-liquid assets are worth $654,000.)
  • My lifestyle currently costs me about $5000 per month (or $60,000 per year). Because everything has been in a state of flux for so long, this is just a guesstimate. I’ll have a much clearer idea of my cost of living at the end of March, after I’ve kept detailed records for three months.

These are the basics. There are some numbers that aren’t reflected here, of course. Any increased value to my home from recent remodeling isn’t shown here, nor is the value of my business. These numbers don’t include potential Social Security income or inheritance because both of these are wildcards.

As I mentioned last winter, my brothers and I were surprised to discover that my mom is a millionaire — at least on paper. In theory, some of that wealth will transfer to me in the future. (In theory.) Meanwhile, the Social Security website shows that if I wait to take benefits until I’m age 70 (which is only twenty years from now!), I’ll qualify for payments of $2050 per month. If I take benefits at age 67, I’ll get $1653 per month.

My current Social Security projection

But again, these are both wildcards. They’re not part of my current wealth, so while I do think about them, I don’t include them in plans or calculations. (I think it’s a mistake to ever include potential, unrealized money in your financial plans. Don’t include potential raises, potential bonuses, potential proceeds from sales. I’ve seen far too many people get into trouble with this sort of thinking. Serious trouble.)

Back of the Napkin Math

With these basic numbers, we can take a number of different approaches to determine how prepared I am to pursue my goals. Quick “back of the napkin” map says no, I am not financially independent. I have financial security, but not financial independence.

  • Using the four percent rule of thumb for retirement savings, I’m nowhere near financially independent. This guideline says that, in general, it’s safe to withdraw 4% from your investment portfolio each year without risk of running out of money. My investment portfolio is worth $680,000. That would sustain $27,200 in spending, not $60,000. Even if I were to use a 4.5% safe-withdrawal rate and include my investments in start-up businesses, I could still support only $37,300 in annual spending.
  • If I take the same approach and apply it to my net worth — which I’m okay with but most people are reluctant to do — things look better. If my entire net worth were invested in stocks and bonds, it could theoretically support $53,200 in annual spending — or $59,850 if I were to use a 4.5% withdrawal rate. That’s just $150 shy of my $60,000 annual expenses.

In short, it’s clear that I am not financially independent anymore. With liberal definitions and assumptions, I fall just shy (by about $12 per month). With more traditional assumptions, I’m not even halfway there!

Five Quick Retirement Calculators

So, back-of-napkin math says I’m no longer financially independent. But what about more sophisticated approaches to my situation? What do retirement calculators say?

Before we take a look, let me re-iterate that most retirement calculators suck. They’re truly awful. Most use current income to computer how much you need to save for retirement. This is idiotic. Current income has nothing to do with retirement spending.

The brilliant Michael Kitces has messaged me in the past to point out that, from a practical perspective, there is a correlation between current income and retirement spending. This is incidental, though, and doesn’t excuse the methodology. For savvy money managers — those who save a lot — current income is a terrible predictor of retirement spending. The worst, most simplistic retirement calculators prohibit users from entering parameters like “I save half my income” or “I want to retire by 40”.

Fortunately, there are good retirement calculators out there. I decided to enter my current numbers into five calculators that I’ve used (and liked) in the past. Because each calculator is based on different assumptions, and because each calculator emphasizes different parameters, they each provide different results.

  • cFIREsim looks like a complete mess, but if you’re willing to muddle through the shitty interface you can get some sophisticated results. cFIREsim shows that my current investment portfolio could support $27,538 in annual spending with a 95% success rate. (It’d support my actual current spending with only a 20% success rate.) If I include Social Security starting at age 67 and a theoretical inheritance, I could support $45,413 in annual spending. The downside to this tool? There’s no way to factor in non-investment assets.
  • FIRECalc 3.0 analyzes past market performance to predict future retirement success. In my case, it suggests that my current investment portfolio only has a 10% chance of lasting until I turn 80. If I base my calculations on net worth instead, there’s an 83% chance it’ll last that long. Note that the basic FIREcalc model uses only three variables. To gain greater sophistication, navigate with the easy-to-miss buttons near the top of the page. (With this calculator, if I delay accessing my investment portfolio for a decade, there an 80% chance my money will last until 80. There’s a 90% chance if I include Social Security starting at 67.)
  • The early retirement calculator from NetWorthify doesn’t work for me. It’s not sophisticated enough to handle my situation. It’s useful for folks with positive saving rates, however.
  • The retirement income calculator from T. Rowe Price shows that I should only spend $2000 per month if I want my investments to last until age 95. Playing with the assumptions shows that with even a modest monthly income — from this website and/or my family’s box factory, say — I’m in good shape.
  • Bankrate’s retirement income calculator says my savings are enough to support $3000 of spending per month. If I can delay touching my savings by a decade, then I have enough to support my current standard of living.

As you can see, these basic retirement calculators yield similar results to my back-of-the-napkin math. Right now, I am not financially independent. If I want to maintain my current standard of living, I need to earn more. If I don’t want to earn more, I need to lower my standard of living.

Ideally, I’d do both.

More Than Money

Now, here’s the thing: These retirement tools are all better than average but they each have weaknesses. They’re ugly. They’re unsophisticated. They have limited functionality. For my money, the three best retirement calculators — the ones I actually use — are the Personal Capital retirement planner, OnTrajectory, and NewRetirement. For the rest of this week, we’ll take a closer look at these three tools. I suspect, however, they’re going to tell me the same thing: I am not financially independent.

But you know what? Financial independence has never been one of my goals. I’ve been adopted by the FIRE movement — for which I am grateful — and I’ve written a lot on the subject, but my actual goal has always been a happy, purpose-filled life. If I manage to achieve financial independence along the way, great. If not, that’s fine too.

To me, achieving FIRE is a meaningless goal. Like getting out of debt, financial independence should be considered a side effect of your actions and choices, not a primary aim.

To me, the more important question is: Am I leading a happy, purpose-filled life? Yes. Yes, I am. I have a good life and I like to believe I’m doing good work. Although I no longer have financial independence, I do have a sizable nest egg, a level of wealth that most people never reach.

I am a lucky man.

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There are 32 comments to "Am I financially independent? (And does it matter?)".

  1. Dave @ Accidental FIRE says 07 January 2019 at 09:15

    Well, you may not be FI but with the knowledge of all things financial that you have, and your discipline, I don’t think you have much to worry about. Just that fact that you’re hyper-aware of where you fall on the spectrum is reason enough to know you’ll be able to handle anything that comes your way. Knowledge and self-awareness of one’s financial standing would solve the financial problems of so many people.

  2. Steveark says 07 January 2019 at 11:53

    You will be totally super fat FI way before you are my age. And I hope you continue blogging at least that long because nobody does it better. Wait, you’ll never be my age. You know what I mean.

  3. Frogdancer Jones says 07 January 2019 at 11:55

    The social security system you have in the US is interesting. In Australia, we have a flat-rate old age pension, paid to either singles or couples. It’s means-tested, so of course not everyone gets it.

    • Dana says 14 March 2019 at 18:20

      Social Security is not a retirement fund. It’s a retirement supplement. Unfortunately, the government’s done a terrible job explaining this to people, just like they don’t explain how it works. (Lots of folks think they are literally paying into a retirement account of their very own. Nope. Social Security taxes fund current retirees’ checks just like federal income taxes fund the military.) Probably a major reason why the program is in so much trouble now, and it’s about to get worse.

  4. { in·deed·a·bly } says 07 January 2019 at 12:07

    “To me, achieving FIRE is a meaningless goal. Like getting out of debt, financial independence should be considered a side effect of your actions and choices, not a primary aim.”

    Well said. Financial Independence is an enabler, a milestone along your journey. It isn’t a destination.

  5. Pete says 07 January 2019 at 12:24

    “Am I leading a happy, purpose-filled life?” Yes, exactly that. Have funds for the various, potential problems which may arise, but if it all works out, you’re FI a lot earlier than most. The names/terms don’t matter at all. We love to be able to define things; but it just isn’t necessary in this case.

  6. S.G. says 07 January 2019 at 13:01

    I never put it to an actual napkin, but I put those numbers together in my head for you awhile ago and reached a similar conclusion. I was a little worried about you if you didn’t make a change, so I’m glad to see that you’re aware of the misalignment.

    Honestly, I think you will also build a much better blog being back in that space and writing about your journey back to FI. Nothing is more boring than an FIRE blogger who loses touch.

  7. Sequentialkady says 07 January 2019 at 13:03

    I’m not financially independent, but I am secure. I could say “f-off!” leave my job (which I love) and have 6-7 months to find the next thing. However, that would crash and burn my current retirement plans.

    I’m a public sector employee (year 19 starts in May) and the rules I’m grandfathered in under say that if I work 30 consecutive years in a PERS position, I can retire at 30 years 1 day and take my full pension — 75% pay of my 3 consecutive highest years of pay — regardless of age. In my case that would be 57.

    If I leave or have a gap in my PERS, I have to wait until I’m 62 to collect my pension, and if I have less than 30 total years, my pension is reduced.

    I don’t have enough credits for Social Security.

    I’ve got about $375k saved in my various retirement accounts, and though I only need to replace 25% of my pay, and my state’s PERS is sound, I’m working to sock as much as possible away in my 403, Roth IRA, HSA, and 457 plans because I’m losing a whole decade of earnings, longevity runs in the family, and you just never know …. (I’m currently saving close to 50% of my pre-tax income.)

  8. Spencer for Hire says 07 January 2019 at 14:14

    Its funny you mentioned financial independence being a meaningless goal. I have been going through tough times at work and relishing the thought of FI. Its my version of running a surf shop on a beach in Hawaii. However, the more I thought about it the more I felt it was a hollow goal as it was my way from running from a problem. The type of people who read this blog will get to FI through the way they live life and ultimately its our purposes in life that give us meaning rather than our net worth. I do appreciate the FIRE communities perspective though as it can provide alternative ideas to what is purposeful.

  9. Goldendog777 says 07 January 2019 at 18:01

    I’m a long-time reader but 1st time poster. I was so obsessed with FIRE for years since I disliked my job. But I always felt that there had to be something more to life than just saving a pile of money and quitting. I did recently quit my job in December and we are only at stage 4 (security). I decided to go back to school to become a registered dietician and my hubby is pursuing a music degree. We couldn’t be happier with our choices. We intend to do work we enjoy for a long time. So, like you, FI is just a side effect and not the entire goal. I’m so happy you wrote this post!

  10. JanBo says 07 January 2019 at 18:53

    FI is a state of mind, not a line in the calculator. It gives you the chance to breathe and do what you want with your life. Yes, there are the hard core, most of whom had an amazing salaries out of college and started blogs when blogs were new. They, like you, were young. My reading is that a number of them went back to work in one way or another because of the saying, “you are really irrelevant unless you are contributing.” They want to discuss serious things with serious people, and that is tough in this world if you spend all day riding your bike to the library. “Do you own the lifestyle or does it own you?”
    We have very similar numbers to you, except our pensions have contributed all the money for lifestyle these last seven years. We still save 5-10%, and do not play the market to keep up with inflation. We left work much older then you (61 and 54), but we experienced a great deal of travel and intellectual stimulation while working. it wasn’t a bad place to be. I consider us FI+ because: nest eggs + pensions, no debt, low taxes, great hiking/ farming area and we are each other’s best friends. We have back ups in all cases.
    Enjoy the ride!

  11. olga says 08 January 2019 at 03:10

    I love your last paragraph. In a way, I also sort glad to hear you are slightly removed from FI, that makes your posts more relate-able to me. “Close, but not there”, “rather still work part-time anyway”, AND live a meaningful life. That. Money allows you to do that. Definitely more so than lack thereof. Thank you for sharing. Gosh, this is exactly why I keep coming here since pretty much its inception.

  12. Ella says 08 January 2019 at 04:09

    JD, Thank you for the honesty and reflection shared in this post. Your stages of financial freedom have been a great guide for thinking about FI as a path rather than an end point. I also appreciate that you see FI as part of living a fulfilled life that contributes to others. Please continue your excellent work with GRS.

  13. zzzzzz says 08 January 2019 at 12:40

    Not considering Social Security is a very conservative position to take. It would literally take an act of Congress for it to not be there for you.

    IOW, you are closer than you think to FI.

    An inheritance from your mom, OTOH, is not something to count on. Medical and long term care costs often drain peoples’ finances as they age.

    • Treo says 09 January 2019 at 17:20

      Counting on the United States staying solvent is frankly a very non-conservative position. It’s all been working out so far, but all it will take is for China to make the margin call…

  14. Big-D says 08 January 2019 at 14:11

    First, I congratulate you on your net worth, and thanks for being open about such topics. It was funny an article was posted last week on ESI about net worth. https://esimoney.com/how-do-you-define-net-worth/ The comments went almost rabid about why a FI site was posting about net worth (because high net worth doesn’t equal FI). Here you are proving the example of what commenters were saying (not the ESI article, but the comments section which was off topic). My comment there and is the same I will say here is that net worth is not the tool to use when measuring FI. FI is measured in cashflow, operating expenses and revenue (which you state in your article). If you look at your life as a business, your balance statement is your Net Worth, and your income statement, retained earnings, and statement of cash flows are your readiness for FI.

    I wish you the best as you continue down your path.

  15. Omar Bodden says 08 January 2019 at 16:54

    Glad you are back JD your articles are a real treat I found your site in 2007 and by 2011 I owned my own home by age 23 , you where my first and the only source of financial advise in my youth and left an impact on my life thank you for sharing your journey with us !

  16. Lisa says 09 January 2019 at 03:42

    Hi J.D,

    Well done on being open about such topics and would like to add my few cents here. Becoming financially independent takes time proper planning prior to your retirement age. I am about to retire and daily visit and study different guides on how to become financially independent after retirement and saving taxes on this income. This leads me to many great resources like this one, which helped me learn how to minimize retirement taxes. Overall a very informative post and useful takeaways to know how to become financially independent. Thanks for sharing.

  17. Bonnie says 09 January 2019 at 13:53

    Hello!

    I’m glad you’re back, as I always enjoyed your writing style, transparency, and your quest. The Road to Financial Freedom breakdown you posted was helpful and personally disappointing for me. Although our net worth looks okay on paper, most of our assets are non-liquid and have tricky tax implications. Over the last two years, due to a number of circumstances, we have slipped from Stability to Solvency. That’s not where I want to be at this stage of the game, but I needed to see it, so thank you!

    I have one questions though: When you said, “even if I were to use a 4.5% safe withdrawal rate…” did you mean 3.5%?

    • J.D. says 09 January 2019 at 13:56

      No, I meant 4.5% safe withdrawal rate. Recently, the fellow who originally publicized the 4% SWD noted that REALLY 4.5% is safe too, but that he used 4% just to be conservative (or something to that effect — I’m not quoting things here). So, if I’m making liberal assumptions, I use a 4.5% withdrawal rate just for kicks…

      • Bonnie says 16 January 2019 at 16:53

        Okay. Thank you for the explanation.

  18. BuccOhhh says 11 January 2019 at 05:07

    I have used all of the retirement calculators you mentioned in your article. The best one by far that I have found is Pralana’s (http://www.pralanaretirementcalculator.com/). It costs $99 but if you need something heavy duty this is the one. I have no financial interest in Pralana — I just wanted to share something very good with my fellow readers who may be looking for a comprehensive retirement app.

  19. Hazel says 13 January 2019 at 20:57

    Raw, honest, humble, and without judgement or sanctimony. This post feels like you’re really finding and defining your voice in the evolved world of blogging and return to GRS.

  20. Meredith Karter says 14 January 2019 at 05:21

    I love your last paragraph. In a way, I also sort glad to hear you are slightly removed from FI, that makes your posts more relate-able to me. “Close, but not there”, “rather still work part-time anyway”, AND live a meaningful life. That. Money allows you to do that. Definitely more so than lack thereof. Thank you for sharing. Gosh, this is exactly why I keep coming here since pretty much its inception.

  21. indio says 16 January 2019 at 07:21

    @JD
    For some reason, I checked this site today and I’m totally confused. Can you pls help me with the chronology? Since you’re putting so much public info out there, I’m assuming you’re OK with personal questions.
    Sold getrichslowly site. Got a divorce. Wanted an urban life so moved to the “big” city. Fire’d or semi-retired. Started new blog. And now you’ve come full circle and bought back getrichslowly, working at family business again and moved back to suburban/rural lifestyle. I’m sure a lot has happened in between that I missed.
    Here’s the question, you were so convinced that you were unhappy with your life 10 years ago so what’s changed now?

    • J.D. says 16 January 2019 at 08:31

      Indio, this is a COMPLEX question and doesn’t have a short answer. Perhaps I should explore the whole process in a longer post. And to make things even stranger, it sounds as if Kim and I might start doing more with Kris (my ex-wife) and HER boyfriend haha. We all get along pretty well.

      The short answer is: Each move I’ve made has indeed been right AT THE TIME. But circumstances change. When I was single, owning the condo in a hip neighborhood seemed smart. Traveling the U.S. in an RV was awesome. But now that Kim and I are settled, we both crave stability and are drawn to our country roots. I wasn’t seeking to repurchase GRS. The opportunity just fell in my lap, so I took it. Nor was I seeking to go back to the box factory. (And, honestly, it remains to be seen whether that’ll work out long term.) But it seems to make sense for my current situation and for the company’s needs.

      But, like I say, there’s a lot of complexity here and if I can find a way to do it, maybe I’ll write a longer article about the subject.

      • Indio says 19 January 2019 at 07:13

        Yes, we all grow and change over time. If you do a post about history, it would be fun to read the different perspectives from everyone involved in it – you, Kris, Kim, etc.

        I used to wake up early Sunday mornings to read the reader profiles, which were my favorite posts. Was desperate to learn from others and not make the same financial mistakes. My other favorite GRS section, were Kris’ posts about growing food and preserving it. Having a family to feed, ideas on how to keep expenses low were useful to me. Money Boss blog never really resonated with me because of it’s narrow topics.

        Now I’m addicted to the MMM forum (I’ve been reading long enough to know you’re bruhs). Audience demographic diversity ensures that there’s always a thread that is interesting and useful as I have achieved financial independence or aged out of the discussions on student loans, mortgage payments, etc.

  22. Indio says 19 January 2019 at 07:16

    PS. you should configure blog so someone can follow comments with an email alert.

  23. Greenbacks Magnet says 20 January 2019 at 13:36

    I like that back of the napkin math. No excuse why anyone can see the numbers, as no Excel required. As someone on the path to FI, it is good to remember why I am doing it in the first place and that others agree that it is not just about th money, but the freedom. Freedom to do what you want, when, and without worrying about how much.

    Thanks,
    Miriam

  24. Papa Foxtrot says 26 January 2019 at 23:43

    It is very sad that a large number of people are still within stage 0, 40% of Americans cannot pay $400 suddenly. I see math most of the time when talking about personal finance, but we all still require emotional motivation to gain financial independence. In fact, some financial advisers like Dave Ramsey say trying to do the math and find the most optimal amount to invest for retirement is irrelevant, just putting money in is relevant.

  25. Paula Pant says 19 March 2019 at 12:02

    “With liberal definitions and assumptions, I fall just shy (by about $12 per month).”

    JD, if shit ever hits the fan in your life, I’ll send you $12 a month. 🙂

  26. JSon says 07 August 2019 at 11:34

    Loved your comment, “I am a lucky man.”
    As for me- I started in Stability two years ago- and had never heard of FIRE or even seriously considered financial independence. For me, I liked to work and mostly liked the work I was doing. The hours were long- hour commute on both ends and a 12 hour, 6 day a week job- often with calls in the middle of the night.
    Suddenly (at 57) found myself out of work and doing so much needed retirement planning.
    So, in a matter of months, I went from Stability through Agency and Security and find myself Independence but marveling and fretting over how I got here. To work this rapid change I needed to sell and move from CA to AZ and liquidate some property in IL. Having had the work schedule I had before- pretty much all hobbies have died- because so much was invested in my work. My advice to anyone who will listen- is doing your planning early- in case life takes you in another direction. I too “am a lucky man.” and really didn’t appreciate that I am until after the dust settled.

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