{"id":235213,"date":"2017-12-01T12:48:32","date_gmt":"2017-12-01T20:48:32","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/getrichslowly.org\/?p=235213"},"modified":"2020-08-29T11:12:46","modified_gmt":"2020-08-29T18:12:46","slug":"when-your-car-is-dead","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.getrichslowly.org\/when-your-car-is-dead\/","title":{"rendered":"Ask the readers: How do you know when your car is dead?"},"content":{"rendered":"

Earlier this month, I shared a link to a comprehensive guide to certified pre-owned vehicle programs<\/a>. In doing so, I mentioned that Kim and I both believe that you should drive a car until it dies. This prompted a great question from Tired Scientist in the comments. She wrote:<\/p>\n

Exactly what is the definition of “until it dies”? My husband and I have gone around and around on this question ourselves. We both believe in driving a car “until it dies”, but disagree slightly on the definition of this\u2013because, unlike with the human body, almost all problems on a car are fixable given enough money.<\/p>\n[…]\n

When is a car considered “dead”?<\/strong> When the cost of repairs exceed the value of the car? When the average monthly cost of repairs exceeds the amount a car payment would be? Is my husband right, and the car is “dead” once it tries to make you dead?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

I’m not sure there’s any one right answer to this question. There are several ways to decide that a car is dead, and it’s up to you to decide which definition applies to you. Let’s look at a decision I made recently — then talk about what other people think.<\/p>\n

<\/span>My Mini Cooper<\/span><\/h2>\n

\"MyIn April 2009, after years of wanting one, I bought a used Mini Cooper<\/a>. I paid $15,600 to purchase a 2004 Mini with 60,000 miles on it. I’ve had that vehicle for over eight years now, and I’ve put another 75,000 miles on it. In that time, I’ve spent less than $1000 on repairs — until recently.<\/p>\n

I love my Mini. I love how compact it is. I love its fuel economy<\/a>. (It still gets over 30 miles per gallon even at this age!) I love how fun it is to drive. And I love how reliable the car has been despite<\/em> not always being treated well. During our 15-month RV trip around the U.S.<\/a>, Kim and I towed the Mini behind the motorhome — and we used it for the kinds of off-road adventures that Minis were never<\/em> intended to have.<\/p>\n

That said, my Mini has started to show its age. Parts that are expected to wear out have begun to wear out. Plus, problems have begun to appear.<\/p>\n

Two weeks ago, for instance, the car died while climbing the 16% grade near our house. The clutch went up in a cloud of stinky, stinky smoke. When I had the car towed to our mechanic, he found evidence that the transmission was failing. “It’ll cost about $1600 to fix the clutch,” he said. “And I found a used transmission I could install for about $1900.”<\/p>\n

As much as I love my Mini, $3500 is a lot of money to put into repairs for an older car. In fact, that’s nearly as much as the car is worth! (According to the Kelley Blue Book<\/a> website, my 2004 Mini Cooper is worth roughly $3741 if I were to try to sell it to a private party. It’s worth much less in dealer trade-in value.)<\/p>\n

I had a decision to make: Do I scrap the Mini and buy a replacement? Or do I make the repairs and continue to drive an older car? <\/p>\n

<\/span>My Thought Process<\/span><\/h2>\n

Kim and I talked about it. Since moving to our country cottage in early July, it’s become very clear that we could use a compact pickup truck. We’ve had to haul things nearly every weekend. It’s a pain to squeeze them into the Mini or her 1997 Honda Accord. (Believe it or not, the Mini has better cargo space than the Accord.) It’s an even bigger pain to run down to the family box factory to borrow the cargo van — but we do that fairly often.<\/p>\n

So, we’ve been talking about buying some sort of beater pickup from the 1980s.<\/p>\n

With a $3500 repair bill looming for the Mini, we were faced with a decision. Do we make the leap and use that money to instead buy a pickup? Or do we proceed with the repairs? We chose to proceed with the repairs — but we’re not convinced that’s the right<\/em> choice. (Or that there is<\/em> a “right” choice.)<\/p>\n

Note:<\/strong> Before I approved the transmission repair, I got a second opinon. My ex-wife Kris is dating a guy who spent years working on Mini Coopers. “Manual transmissions just don’t fail on the 2004s,” he told me. “But you towed yours behind a motorhome for fifteen months and 18,000 miles. Minis aren’t really designed to do that. In this case, it’s not surprising that the transmission is trashed.”<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Why did we decide to make repairs instead of declaring that my car was dead? For several reasons:<\/p>\n