DoingHomework, I saw you refer to this practice earlier in the thread, and I meant to ask you about it. Do you have any evidence that this is actually happening, or were you just exaggerating a little for rhetorical effect?
Phoenix Copwatch has documented it numerous time. Joe Arpaio himself has joked about it in an interview.
All vehicles must pass specific "roadworthiness" certification standards, so I'm not sure how a brand-new Ford rolling off the assembly line can be considered in conformance with legal standards, but just seconds later can be considered "unroadworthy" by a police officer when nothing has changed.
Exactly! But that is what is happening here in Arizona. These nutcases are on a crusade for states' rights. They consider the Federal standards and laws to not apply unless there is an interstate commerce issue. While the standards that applied when the vehicle was manufactured met Federal standards, Joe claims that an Arizona peace officer still has the right to question whether the particular vehicle at the particular time is in compliance with Arizona law. Of course the driver can question the stop and challenge any evidence gathered or conviction obtained under the Federal Exclusionary Rule ("fruits of the poinsonous tree") but they are either afraid to do so, can't because they've been locked up or deported, or the charges are dropped before trial so that they lack "standing." As I said, 85% of MCSD cases are cleared without trial. That basically means that 85% of the charges are dropped, usually for lack of evidence. But they lock people up for days, weeks, or months in Joe's tent city to punish them before trial. To me it is clear that he has just figured out a way to abuse and harrass people.
But you don't need to believe me. Amnesty International has singled him out for abuse of human rights. The US Department of Justice is investigating as is the Federal Bureau of Investigation for different reasons. The Maricopa County Board of Supervisors tried to audit him and investigate abuses. He promptly arrested 2 of them and accused them of corruption for questioning him. Of course the charges will be dropped as usual before trial I'm sure.
This legislature also legalized automatic weapons in defiance of the federal ban. As long as they are manufactured in the state and never leave the state they are now legal.
Again, I'm not trying to call you out, I'm just asking for a reference. If this is indeed happening, then I'd have to agree that such a practice is outrageous.
Search on Amnesty International's web site
Try here: http://www.phoenixcopwatch.org/
Search the archives of the various Phoenix newspapers
Search Cnn - they had a recent story about it
Listen to Savarel. He disagrees with me about the new law but he lives here in Arizona and he knows this stuff is going on!
The Department of Homeland Security speciifcally stripped all MCSD officers of their authority to enforce federal immigration laws last year because of what was going on.
Of course it's not hard to find support for any opinion online. But I think if you do your own research on objective, reputable sources you will find that what is alread happening in AZ is far beyond what is done elsewhere. Of course there are people that support and defend it and they are entitled to their opinion. But there were people that opposed civil rights 50 years ago too and they had good reasons.
Do your own research, cut through the politics and the rhetoric, and decide i you think what is going on is right. I think we agree there is a problem. But this is not the solution.