Reader Story: What My Father’s Death Taught Me About Estate Planning
Published on - November 27th, 2011 (by J.D. Roth) This guest post from Jody is part of the “reader stories” feature at Get Rich Slowly. Some stories contain general advice; others are examples of how a GRS reader achieved financial success — or failure. These stories feature folks from all levels of financial maturity and with all sorts of incomes.
My dad died recently. He was a good man and a great father. Just three months after he retired (after spending more than 40 years as a salesman for an oil company), he was diagnosed with stage-four colon cancer. Throughout my life, my father tried to give my brothers and me a good financial education.
For instance:
- We were solidly middle class, but I always thought we were sort of poor. Often, there wasn’t money for this or that. But Dad taught me to be comfortable living below my means.
- If I needed money, Dad told me to get a job. My brothers and I all had jobs since we were about twelve. I packed rice into take-out containers at a Chinese restaurant when I was in seventh and eighth grade.
- He taught me that charity matters. We sponsored kids our age in poor countries as a way to give back and underscore how fortunate we were.
But the most unexpected financial lesson my father taught me came after he passed away. I am the executor of his estate. My dad was always a planner, but the things he did to make this processes easier are amazing. I feel compelled to share them with just about everyone I know. Today, I’m sharing them with GRS readers.
Building a team
My dad lived on a beautiful lake in Missouri, which is about five hours from where I live. Every time I’d go and visit him, he would set up a meeting with his “key people”. I’d argue against it. “Dad, I don’t really need to meet your tax guy,” I’d say. He insisted.
I met his insurance representative. We took his attorney to lunch. Just about every time I came to visit, he had to “stop at the bank for a minute.” I’m on a first name basis with his bank. When his “Fidelity Lady” called he’d say, “Just a minute I want you to talk to my daughter.” I would roll my eyes and be embarrassed for both of us as he handed me the phone.
This is all years ago, when it looked like chemo was working and he would beat cancer. Today, these connections have been invaluable. When my dad’s insurance representative heard that he passed away, he called me and had already dropped the forms in the mail. His banker has made everything so easy. “Don’t worry about that you can sign it next time you’re here.” His “Fidelity Lady” also contacted me and filled out half the paperwork for us.
I can’t count how many times, I’ve said “Thanks Dad, for looking out for me.” I knew who to call. I’ve met them. I have their business cards.
Negotiating fees
Dad negotiated the estate fees. Lunch with the attorney who wrote his will was so helpful that I’m still in awe. When the dust settled, I called her and said “What now?” She knew exactly what to do and had all the information to do it. But, get this: Dad negotiated the estate fees as well. He told her, “If my daughter decides to use you to settle the estate, (knowing he had already stacked the deck in her favor) let’s negotiate a not-to-exceed amount that you would charge.” He then put that amount in a targeted bank account.
I was thinking that the cost for the legal fees would be about $7,000 or $8,000. I had no frame of reference. This was just a number in my head. The fees were $20,000. I was blown away. When I did some research and called some lawyer friends, I learned that lawyers typically charge between 3% and 5% of the total value of the estate. My dad had negotiated 2% and put the money in an account I had immediate access to. Again, thanks Dad!
Planning ahead
Several years ago when he was still healthy, he added me to his bank accounts. My name was on his checks. I argued against it because I thought it was unnecessary and I was always taught that money and account balances are private information. He wanted me to do it anyway. (His credit was always spotless, so I knew there was no risk for me.)
When his health started to fail and then when he passed away, it was absolutely seamless for me to pay his bills. I could sign the checks. (He even made me “try it out” years ago by writing a $10 check to my brother!) I could pay bills on-line. He made sure there was enough money in that account to pay the bills in case his house doesn’t sell for almost two years.
Preparing for the worst
My father pre-paid his funeral expenses and left extra money in that checking account for miscellaneous expenses. Again, my dad was a planner. He had a master binder. He wanted to review his funeral arrangements with me, but that was more than I could handle. He told me when I needed the plans, I just had to flip to “F” for Funeral in his binder. Low and behold when I did, everything was there: the places he had made arrangements with and copies of cancelled checks with business cards attached to them. There were five copies of 8x10s he had taken when he was still relatively healthy for us to use in the obituary! Attached to that was his obituary! He wrote it himself.
Even as organized as he was there were about $3,500 in unforeseen costs. It was a rainy, windy day and we needed a large tent and chairs at the graveside. Obituaries cost about $100 a day. I had no idea newspapers charged for obituaries! My grandma wanted the obituary ran in several other papers along with the ones my dad specified, which was fine, but I was shocked to see that it cost $500 more. Seeding that checking account that I already had access to, was key. I cringe at the thought of having to ask my brothers, who are a financial mess, to chip in for anything. Luckily, his funeral didn’t become a financial burden on anyone.
Settling affairs
When Dad updated his will several years ago, he asked if I would be his executor. Of course I said yes. He told me that I was entitled to compensation for doing this. He recommended I take a 2% or 3% commission. I said no way. It felt like I would be charging him.
After he passed away and I realized all that it entailed, I found myself thinking that maybe I should have taken him up on that offer. Being the executor of an estate — even a very well-planned estate — took about 10 to 15 hours a week for months. It’s a big job. I found myself resenting my brothers since I was doing it all.
When we went to Fidelity to split up his IRA, he had stipulated that I receive 1% more then my brothers for my job as executor. He paid me anyway! He knew the job should come with some compensation and he preserved my relationship with my brothers. See what I mean? My dad was amazing, and this is just a small peek into his wonderful life.
A gift from the grave
I honestly consider my father’s financial planning to be a selfless act of love. Despite his generosity, I would trade every last cent for ten more minutes with him. When someone you love dies, it’s brutal. Emotionally, and physically. Trust me, you really are in no state to make these type of financial or legal decisions on your own (unless maybe you are an expert). I haven’t even mentioned the tax side of it. I’m sure there are ways to save money and do things cheaper.
As J.D. says, don’t let the perfect be the enemy of good. Not having any plans is a giant mistake. Do what my dad did. Do a little at a time and refine your plan along the way as you become more knowledgeable.
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I am so sorry for your loss, but thank you for sharing.
This is one of the very best articles on here and I need to go talk to my father and start setting stuff up for my son.
Thank you again.
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Jody – what an amazing story. Your Dad sounds ilke a fantastic guy – someone you could be very proud to call Dad.
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Great story, thanks for sharing and especially for organizing & sharing the details.
One bit of advice: word your “do you have a will” question very carefully – consider “when was your will executed” or “who witnessed your will” or some such.
Why? Well, when my mother died, I found out that even though my parents had created wills when my father retired (they basically read them over the phone to me, so that I knew what to expect), that they had not ever executed those wills so my mother did *not* have a will.
Dad has remarried a wonderful woman and they have both a pre-nup and updated, executed wills (basically whoever dies first, those assets can be used for the benefit of the surviving spouse and then pass to heirs at death of second person). So at least the lesson was learned!!
My mother’s parents were ultra-organized in their estate; of their 3 children, 1 was organized and the other 2 (including my mother) not at all. So the 1-in-3 ratio holds in this family as well!
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What a wonderful father you had. I am sorry for your loss but grateful for the legacy.
If there’s a way to be put in touch with Jody, I would appreciate it. I would like her permission to use part of her story to pass on to retirees at USC, where I am a volunteer on the Benefits and Resource Committee of the Emeriti Center. We’ve done a booklet (sort of a check list) on what to do when a loved one dies, and this set of ways in which we can help in advance would be invaluable. Thank you so much.
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Very sorry for your loss, but as a “tax guy” I nodded along with this and found myself saying “good job, Jody’s Dad”. Death is such a hard thing for families to go through on its own. I’ve seen too many situations where the unclear financial/estate picture just made it worse.
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I am so sorry for your loss. The amount of planning that your Dad put into his estate is, without a doubt, amazing. But I think the thought he obviously put into helping you and your siblings avoid conflict is the most amazing piece.
My grandparents thought they were prepared, but their instructions were too vague, and in the end, they were too tired to do anything about it. I watched my mother’s siblings rip their family apart. The grief and frustration fueled ridiculous fights over the small estate. My dad (who hasn’t been a part of that family for decades) said something at time that certainly rang true, “10K won’t make you rich but it will make you a [fill in appropriate expletive].”
Good for him. Not only for getting his financials in order, but also for making sure that his family would still be intact after the dust settled.
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Jody, thank you for this. It really hits home. My father is 96 (I am the daughter of a 2nd marriage and my mother is 25 years younger than he is), and I have been stressing constantly because I know each day could be the last. He grew up during the Depression and he is extremely good with money, whereas I picked up my mother’s splurge and worry about it later financial habits. Although he hasn’t shared all these aspects for me, I know he has arranged his funeral details and probably just about everything else. Your story has been very helpful.
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Best Reader Story yet!
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As an estate planning attorney, we feel it’s very important that the family is involved to the extent the client will allow family involvement. Kudos to your dad.
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Thank you for sharing the story of your dad’s planning. My father also had a big notebook with much of the information needed after his death. When my mother died, we relied on that information and it helped greatly.
I was also on all of the bank accounts when my mother died. It did make it easier to pay the bills, however I ended up paying the taxes on her interest income and ultimately, as the executor, had a financial hit. Something to consider…
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Thank you so much for this story. I had the opposite experience recently–my father died in August, and my boyfriend’s father died last December. Neither had been nearly as organized as your father, and it is a very stressful, painful experience to be dealing with financial matters along with the grief of losing a parent. My father was supposed to be on Title 19 and simply stopped filing paperwork with the state–so we had to frantically comb through piles of unpaid bills and dirty laundry to find the right paperwork while Dad was in the hospital for the last time. We knew my boyfriend’s father had pre-paid for a funeral, but didn’t know where, so we spent an afternoon calling every funeral home in the yellow pages until we found the right one. As unsentimental and painful as it seems, planning for your death is one of the best things you can do for your loved ones!
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I am so sorry for your loss, but your story was just wonderful. How great that your Dad did what he knew would make it easy on you and your family.
My grandmother wasn’t the “planner” that your dad was, but she, too, insisted that I meet her attorney, banker, etc. in person. She also added me as a POA to her checking account, and made me DGPOA over her finances.
As a result, during her final illness, it was easy for me to walk into the bank with her bills, greet the bank manager by name, have them cut the checks for me, then go straight to the post office & mail them (she didn’t “trust” online banking…).
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What a wonderful article. My husband recently passed away quite unexpectedly from a heart attach. We never made any plans in the event of one of our deaths. I cannot begin to express the confusion and stress on top of grieving that this has caused me and my children. He had a business and I didn’t even know how to access anything on his computer. I can go on and on but it’s important to learn to plan. I am currently getting long term care insurance, another very important thing for all of us to consider. No one knows when an unexpected tradegy will occur and it is mandatory to have things prepared so that our families will not suffer the unimaginable tragedy of dealing with finances and arrangements on top of our loss. Thank you for your article. Best Regards, Ann Allison
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Very sorry for your loss. It makes you think of your parents preparation and your own. This is really a wonderful tribute to your father who did everything he could to make things easier on you and your family.
This will truly help me as I deal with an elderly parent.
Thank you.
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Wow. Your dad is a total inspiration. This is an amazing story. Thank you so much for sharing.
I wish my dad had left his affairs in order. In spite of 4 heart attacks/strokes, he left his affairs in shambles. Before he died he left everything to his new wife and cut me out of the will. Fine — she has to be the executor, and there’s probably nothing left, after many years of unemployment and other very poor financial decisions. More than two years on since his death, and she still has not reconciled his estate and affairs. I’m still pretty ticked off at dad for deferring thinking about the truth of life and shoving it on to the people he loved.
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I was just going to pass over this article because I just didn’t see the need (or have the interest) in reading about dealing with the financial realities of death. But boy, am I glad I did. This was really informative and inspiring. Thanks for sharing.
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This is one of the best things I’ve read in a while. Thank you for sharing it.
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I am so sorry for the loss of your father. I lost my own father a few years ago, and “brutal” is the perfect way to describe it.
How wonderful, though, that he had the foresight to plan all of these things out in advance, and what a wonderful lesson to pass on to his family. Thanks for sharing your story
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I wholeheartedly agree. I also lost my dad just over a year ago. He hadn’t been quite so thorough as your father, however, he did make sure there were resources for me to transition through his death and the settling of his estate. Wow, have I learned some great lessons to prepare for my kids future after I am gone! Thanks for a great article about a subject no one really wants to talk about until it’s too late!
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Your dad sounds like the kind of person who took pleasure from knowing his affairs were in order, and that you would be there to take care of things. I’m sure it was comforting to him to have these arrangements made. Some children don’t want to hear about these things, since it feels like somehow they’re after their parents’ money, but as a parent thinking about how to do this, I like knowing I’ve had these conversations with my adult children. Even if they don’t want to hear about it! Don’t push your folks off when they want to talk about these things, people! If your parents bring them up, consider yourself lucky.
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Even though there were arrangements in place, handling an estate can take many hours of one’s time and it can be a year or more before all is taken care of…especially if one’s parent was a business owner! It’s been over a year and I’m still not done closing things up. The more that can be arranged ahead of time the better!
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Thank you so very much for posting this experience. I’m 37 and almost died once from a brain issue, with 5 teen and grown sons, and I have been playing around with my funeral plans for some time with no true focus. This post has helped give me a little more direction and motivation to finish the plans that I have started. Thank you!
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Your father sounds like such a prepared man! I’m so glad to learn from you (and him!) about how to better prepare my family for the future, as well as how to be wise with my money. I can see the exact opposite example with the home I am living in. I am renting it from the executor of will, of the lady whom I used to take care of. They did not start a living trust, but had a will, and everything was in disarray. Her deceased husband’s name was still all over the bills, there were properties underwater, in other states, etc. It has been 2+ years since she passed, and still the process is not close to being over. It would have been so much easier on the family had she been better prepared.
Thank you!!
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What a touching story and a wonderful gift from father to daughter. My parents are both in good health but I’m saving this article for the (hopefully-distant) future. So sorry for your loss, Jody, but thank you for sharing your experience!
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Wow. Thanks for sharing, and sorry for your loss. My mother-in-law passed away unexpectedly a few weeks ago. We are working on estate planning for my father-in-law. It’s definitely a complicated and lengthy process.
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A wonderful man with a wonderful legacy; thank you for sharing.
This post was recommended to me by one of my clients. (I am a financial professional.) The best gift a person can leave their children is what this father gave, a written plan. It’s not easy, but everyone should talk to their parents concerning legacy/estate planning before the time comes.
It is a difficult topic, but even more so when your loved one is facing the terminal illness and refuses to discuss such things. Plan ahead so those last remaining months/weeks/days can be spent together in love and not frantically tying up loose ends. I too speak from experience.
Thank you again for baring this personal part of your life.
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I have tears in my eyes from reading your story. I lost my dad 18 months ago and he sounds a lot like your dad. We are both so lucky to have had such wonderful dads. I am sorry for your loss.
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I really appreciated you sharing this, even after such a great loss, your dad continues to give a wonderful gift…a strong example to follow.
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What a great story. Your Dad sounds like a wonderful man and is proof that the greatest legacy a parent can leave a child is a good education. You obviously were a loving daughter who deserved his trust and the responsibility he left you. Thanks again for sharing. Diana
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I’m sorry for your loss. Your dad’s story made my eyes water. What a great dad!
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Condolences on the loss of your father. I do have a question. Not sure if this is the way to ask, but I’ll give it a try. Are there any tax implications from being a joint signer on your father’s bank accounts?
Again sorry for your loss and thanks for sharing your story.
John
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My condolences to you and your family on the transition of your Father.
Thank for your story. You included some aspects that I never thought of. I will definitely be putting together a binder for not only my parents but myself.
Thank you, again!
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Thank you for such a helpful story. After my father passed, things were a financial mess. As my mother is reaching her final years, I can plan things with her now to help avoid the mess with my father. I had no idea where to start. Thank you!
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