What is the difference between a career and a job?

What is the difference between a career and a job? Trent at The Simple Dollar recently suggested the following dichotomy:

  • A job is something you do simply to earn money; a career is a series of connected employment opportunities.
  • A job has minimal impact on your future work life, while a career provides experience and learning to fuel your future.
  • A job offers few networking opportunities, but a career is loaded with them.
  • When you work at a job, you should do the minimum without annoying the boss. When you’re in a career, you should go the extra mile, doing tasks beyond your minimum job description.

Though I agree with Trent on many things — our financial philosophies are very similar — I don’t agree with him on this. I believe that all jobs deserve your best effort, and I believe the distinction between a job and a career is artificial.

Doing My best

During the summer after my freshman year of college, I worked as a busboy at the Holiday Inn. I was the best busboy I could be. While the other guys stood around during slack times, I looked for ways to help in the kitchen or to prepare for the lunch rush.

As a result, I got better tips from the waitresses. The manager trained me to run the cash register. Sometimes I even got to help the pantry chef. I wasn’t looking for a career in food service, and I wasn’t trying to brown-nose. But I enjoyed the work and gave it all I had. This made the job fun, and earned respect from people who mattered: from my boss, and from his boss, the hotel manager.

Eventually I was given a chance to wait tables. Though I tried, I wasn’t particularly good with the morning breakfast crowd of businessmen and tourists. On the other hand, I was awesome at Sunday brunch. The bluehairs loved me. Before long, I was making more money working just six easy hours on Sunday than I had been while working 35 difficult hours during the rest of the week. And the busboys who used to stand around all the time were still standing around — doing the minimum (and earning the minimum).

Doing the Minimum

Two years later, I had a work-study job with the campus Summer Events department. Every afternoon from four to five, after my boss had left for the day, it was my job to answer the phone. And that’s all I ever did. I never asked for more work. I never showed any enthusiasm for the job. I just answered the phone.

Another student covered the phone for an hour every morning. He, however, did more than he was asked. Much more.

Neither of us realized it at the time, but our boss had pull. As a result, the other student landed a plum job with the admissions office, but my own application to join residence life was denied. I found out later that my lack of initiative in that seemingly meaningless work-study job had played a significant role in the decision not to hire me. For better or worse, this changed my destiny.

Lessons Learned

In my life, I’ve held a bewildering array of jobs. The two listed above are just representative examples. Few of my jobs have been related in the sense of a traditional “career”, but almost all of them have provided resources, skills, or connections that I could use in the future. I’m convinced that:

Every job is a part of your career

Some workers spend forty years in the same department at the same company. This is a career in the traditional sense of the word. But my father’s working life was also a career even though his jobs were largely unrelated: landscaper, flight instructor, box salesman. Your career is made up of all your jobs, whether they’re directly connected or not. Each one of them is important.

Every job provides skills and resources for the future

As much as I hated selling insurance door-to-door, that job taught me lessons that I can apply directly to work on Get Rich Slowly. I learned that it never hurts to ask. I learned how to deal with rejection and negative feedback. While working at the box factory, I learned how to communicate with a huge variety of people. My brief stint as a computer programmer helped me develop techniques I now use to focus while writing. Even my job as a busboy offered lessons about the value of hard work and a positive attitude.

Every job offers networking opportunities

You don’t know where life will lead you. You don’t know which co-workers or customers you will meet later and in what context. My brother Tony was our company’s box salesman for many years. Now he runs a firm that manufacturers nutritional supplements for animals. He’s constantly drawing on the network of contacts he made while at the box factory in order to gather information about manufacturing, shipping, packaging, and distribution. In many ways, a non-traditional career like Tony’s offers more opportunities to leverage relationships.

You should always do your best

Doing the minimum is rarely a good idea. Whether or not you think your current job is part of your career path, do your best. Do more than is asked of you. If you approach your work with a positive attitude, a willingness to learn, and a spirit of excellence, you will set yourself so far apart from your peers that your employers will be forced to take notice. It never hurts to do your best.

I’m not arguing that you should pour yourself into every job you ever have. But I do think you should treat most jobs as if they were important — because they are. They not only provide a source of immediate income, but it’s possible that they can lead to better things in the future.

The Difference Between a Career And a Job

Not all careers have a single unifying theme. Some careers are homogeneous, but many are not. My wife taught high school science for eight years — now she works in a lab doing analytical chemistry. I was a box salesman for fifteen years — now I’m a writer. For a decade, my friend Wayne sold cars — now he’s an accountant. Each of us has a career, even if the jobs do not seem to be related.

I think that for most people — whether they’re on a traditional career path or not — a job is just a way to earn money. There are people who love their work, but even then not all of them are in a career. For most people, work is simply a necessary evil.

So what’s the difference between a career and a job? I don’t believe there is one. A career is simply a lifetime of jobs, whether those jobs are related or not. And while it’s important to focus on your future goals, it’s even more important to focus on doing the best you can right now at your current job.

A Final Note

There’s one exception to the advice I’ve offered. In my story about the worst job I ever had, I wrote:

There are good jobs, and there are bad jobs. And then there are shitty jobs. You should strive to work only at good jobs. Sometimes you’ll have to endure bad in order to meet a greater goal. But you should never put up with a shitty job.

If you are miserable at work — whether because of your boss or your co-workers or the work itself, then find another job. Don’t burn your bridges, and don’t do anything rash, but slowly and methodically find a new place to work. In the meantime, do the minimum. You don’t have to love your job, but you should never let it ruin your life.

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There are 66 comments to "What is the difference between a career and a job?".

  1. Andreas Rilinger says 10 July 2008 at 05:23

    You inspired me. Yes indeed, it is never just a job what you’re doing, it’s all part of your career. And it’s worth it to invest some energy. 🙂

    It fully depends on your attitude how much fun you have while working. Doing less makes a job boring.

  2. JoeD says 10 July 2008 at 05:40

    I recently relocated to the Midwest from the East Coast with my family for a job opportunity. Periodiclaly, I wonder if I made the right decision. Your blog post was a timely and supportive read for me, reaffirming that I made the right decision in that if nothing else I’m adding to my career. I look forward to your next post.

  3. Samir says 10 July 2008 at 06:27

    JD, this is fantastic advice. The saying “You get what you give” is very true in the job world. Every single job you ever take is a stepping stone, and the experience is more valuable than any wages you will receive. To this day, I draw on experiences and lessons learned from a copy shop job I had in high school.

  4. Foxie says 10 July 2008 at 06:30

    I certainly agree with this! If nothing else, for those with limited work histories and an odd assortment of jobs, having glowing reviews from bosses is great.

    I can still go and visit my supervisors from my first job and know that they liked me when I was working there. I always tried to keep busy; working in the food industry, there is always something that needs cleaning! It reflected good on me because of all the other young people there who wouldn’t take the initiative to do extra work. I could clean and chat just as easily as I could stand around and yap.

    My only exception is my current job, where my boss actually tells us to do nothing. When there aren’t any customers to help, sometimes there really isn’t anything to do. (Well, there are some, but we’d rather not do tags for all of time…) Though yesterday, I started a task on my own without being asked. I usually get told to stop doing things and leave work for the others, as I start doing something and just plow right through it. 🙂

  5. Brandt Smith says 10 July 2008 at 06:33

    JD-I agree that any job should be done well. If it isn’t worth your best efforts move on.

    A job is the generic tag you use for employment. A career refers to the chain of employment that may include many jobs. Sometimes that career is random. Sometimes that career is planned. Sometimes you jump tracks and change careers.

    I know I personally let the wind blow me from opportunity to opportunity for years. I found that my career was no longer satisfying because my job was conflicting with other priorities. For example, my travel schedule was extreme and this was hard on my family.

    I did some soul searching and had some long talks with my wife. We identified what we were looking for in life. At this point we began to search for a new job that would put my career back on the right path.

    It would also free up time for us to start a side business. This was part of the plan. I love my job but know my longterm future and happiness is dependent on my business.

  6. Alison Wiley says 10 July 2008 at 06:37

    I agree that our lives are an integrated whole, and that everything we do makes a difference, in ways we cannot fully know at the time. I’m finally at a point in my life where I feel rich — and much of my richness is because I love what I do for a living, and I’m rich in relationships and outdoor life.
    Alison in Oregon
    http://wwww.diamondcutlife.org/

  7. Mo Money says 10 July 2008 at 06:46

    If you love what you are doing you will never have a job!

  8. Joel Carry says 10 July 2008 at 06:49

    Having fun at your job is the most important deciding factor in trying to figure out if we want to turn this job into a career. It makes a big difference as to how we continue with our life, whether we live feeling wealthy or live feeling poor.

  9. Betsy Teutsch says 10 July 2008 at 07:09

    Seems like there’s something missing here. Vocation, in the spiritual sense, is what one hopes to accomplish on earth with one’s life force. To me, a job however well done, is just busy work. But one’s life work has a bigger mission – hopefully a desire to have a positive impact on the world in some way or another. Call it dream, passion, goal, mission – but ideally one should attempt to align one’s best efforts with worthy outcomes, and still be able to pay the bills….

  10. TosaJen says 10 July 2008 at 07:11

    Very good stuff!

    However, regarding the “do the minimum without annoying the boss”, I can see where this is sometimes necessary. There are many jobs (career-related or not), where you need to carefully balance giving it everything you’ve got and annoying/threatening the boss.

    Seriously, some jobs require leaving a good chunk of your brain at home. You can still shine by doing your assigned tasks really well and pursuing additional responsibilities, but new ideas? “Not in your job description.”

    I’d say that’s where I draw my line between “job” and “career” — if I learn and can contribute new ideas, it’s “career-job” — otherwise, it’s just “job”.

  11. Canadian Dream says 10 July 2008 at 07:20

    Mmm interesting debate. I agree a bit with Trent and a bit with JD. It’s partly just a function of language and attitude. How do you treat what you do to make money?

    A job could be defined as something you do to get by and as such people would have a hard time pouring their effort into it.

    A career seems to imply a bit more than just a job. It has a second purpose beyond just the money. If you learn something or enjoy it and there seems to be a point to work beyond a paycheque it could be a career.

    Just my thoughts,
    Tim

  12. EscapeVelocity says 10 July 2008 at 07:41

    Good advice, but I sure have a problem following it, which would explain why I’m reading blogs at work :).

  13. Jessica says 10 July 2008 at 07:51

    I hate my job. I used to love it, but now I hate it. I am a journalist in the Army National Guard. This job was awesome when I was deployed that first year after basic training. Now that I have been home a few years and work at our office at state headquarters, I hate it. It’s so different here. I don’t feel like we put out a good product (our publication is lousy). I used to try to improve on it. I have loads of advanced training that really had me inspired to start creating award winning military publications, but every effort I made to apply some of these techniques I learned in my advanced training was shot down, and I eventually lost all motivation to excell. Now my office is hiring on a bunch of new people, and they have come in here spouting the same ideas I did when I first started here. The difference is that the new people are being listened to. I don’t know what was wrong when I said it.
    Honestly, I’m just hanging on here until I finish college. I’ve looked at jobs similar to mine on the civilian side, but they all require applicants to have bachelor’s degrees (and they still pay about half as much as I’m making here).
    I know I can’t get a job that pays as much as I’m making here in the civilian world without school, and I am a single mother, so I can’t go quitting this job without another one lined up. The problem is, as a single mother working full time, I have very little time left over for school. At the rate I am going, I won’t graduate until I’m 30! (I’m 24 now)
    God I want out of this job. I keep telling myself I should work harder at what I’m doing now, but there is no opportunity for advancement anyhow; because I’m hired as a temporary technician, they never have to promote me or give me raises, nor do they provide me with benefits, and I’m the first to go if there are layoffs. I’ve been working here for two years now and have not once gotten a pay raise and my infant son and I are uninsured.
    I am debating about whether or not it would be worth it to pull out large student loans, large enough to cover my bills (because the Army pays for all my school) so that I can quit my job and go to school full time and graduate in two years instead of six. That way I can get a civilian job that has benefits and opportunity for advancement and just stay in the Guard on drilling status. That would mean a lot of student loans though, a lot of debt. I don’t know.

  14. Frugal Dad says 10 July 2008 at 07:53

    I don’t remember the source, but I’ve heard a story about a businessman who visited a favorite restaurant and ordered a Diet Coke. The waiter indicated they didn’t serve Diet Coke, much to the ire of the guest. He ordered a water, obviously irritated, and the waiter disappeared. In a couple minutes the waiter returned with a cold bottle of Diet Coke and a glass of ice. The guest was puzzled, “I thought you guys didn’t serve Diet Coke?” The waiter responded, “We don’t. I ran around the corner to a convenience store and picked one up for you.” The man was so impressed with the kid’s customer service and hustle that he made him a job offer right there at the table.

    Moral of the story: Work hard at everything you do; take pride in your work. You never know who’s watching, and who might offer you a much better opportunity!

  15. Ms. Penny Pincher says 10 July 2008 at 07:57

    J.D. I absolutely love your blog. I’ve been following you for a couple of years now. I definitely feel like we’re on the same wave-length regarding saving, frugality and “stuff”. I totally agree with you as usual! I left this comment on The Simple Dollar on this issue but thought I would repeat myself here as well:
    Hi Trent,
    I’m a first time poster but a long time reader. I really enjoy your blog 🙂 I normally agree with your advice (except the one about the clothesline…We have one and it’s great!) but I have to heartily disagree with you on this one. The only difference between me and your example is that I work in a video store. I don’t see this as a career since I have no desire to become the manager but I do all those things you mentioned anyway (cleaning the store, asking a lot of questions, etc). I do this because I believe in doing the best job you can. We have a staff of about 20 people ranging in ages from 14 to 49; high school students, university students, and part-time working Moms and if they all took your advice of not putting in the effort then our store would fall to pieces. Thankfully most of them do their job and more because they take pride in a job well done. I think it sends the wrong message to the youth of today that it’s okay to stand around and do nothing since it’s “only” a job. If anything, they should be taught to have a stronger work ethic rather than a weaker one.

  16. J.D. says 10 July 2008 at 07:57

    Betsy has an interesting point regarding vocation. That’s worth exploring some in the future, I think. I’ve mentioned before that I consider this blog my vocation, and it’s only something I discovered recently in life. I wouldn’t have understood it without everything I’d done before.

    But I don’t think everyone finds a vocation. There are those who, for whatever reason, have jobs or careers that do not bring meaning or purpose to their lives. This isn’t bad or wrong — it’s just how it is. (And maybe that’s what Trent means when he says “career”…)

    Anyhow: I do think it’s interesting how different people view work. I know some people who hate every job they have. I know others who love every job they have. Part of this is luck, but part of it is attitude.

    @Jessica
    Ouch. That’s the sort of job I hate!

  17. Jessica says 10 July 2008 at 08:16

    You know what was the best job I ever had? Pizza delivery. Before I joined the Army. That job was awesome. You just drove around, listened to music, you met all sorts of crazy characters. And the people I worked with were really cool. The people you work with make all the difference. A crappy job can be awesome if your coworkers are awesome.
    Of course, when I worked pizza delivery, gas was only 1.89 a gallon. I’d never deliver pizzas now!

    • justin chemmachel says 20 July 2019 at 08:31

      I worked in this field as well.. until an employee (fellow driver got sick and was on the floor of the resturant.) Seems like it was a great job for me as well i can not say i did not enjoy it.

  18. Glenn says 10 July 2008 at 08:24

    Just after graduating college I landed in a local political campaign as an intern–it was an easy job to get, I didn’t mind the candidate very much (at the time) and I didn’t want to spend the time looking for a job anyway. Even though I wasn’t personally invested in the grudgework I was doing I gave it my all, with the work ethic my parents taught me, and afterwards my boss decided to bring me to her next campaign. A few months later she called me again to go down to Philadelphia and lend some help to another campaign, where they needed someone to run their voter database; I hadn’t done that exact job before, but people I’d worked with previously noticed that I was a computer geek and figured I could grow into the job. Again I gave that my all, and went to a couple more campaigns in New Jersey with the same team before deciding to get out of politics. Lo and behold the first temp agency I went to had an opening for a database administrator, which I could certainly make the last few campaigns sound like, where I’ve been for the last ten months.

    You never know where your experience will lead you, and every job you have is a valuable networking or reputation-building opportunity.

  19. Bhars says 10 July 2008 at 08:37

    Though I read your words regularly, I hardly take the time to share a thanks. This post of yours has moved me considerably. Comes in time of much needed solace. Thanks a lot!

  20. elisabeth says 10 July 2008 at 08:48

    On the one hand, I do believe you should try to enjoy every minute of your day, and if you are at work, that may mean a) doing much more than the minimum, just to keep your brain alive and also because we do feel better if we keep moving! or b) doing as little as possible because you are in a situation where you are not being respected and there are more interesting options available (internet, interesting companions, a good book…) that you can pursue while also doing all you need to do to get paid.
    But I’ve been reading a history of work recently, and I think that the idea of a “career” is just another way to disguise the fact that “work” isn’t “life/play.” When our culture convinces us that having a “career” instead of a “job” is a goal, what is really happening is that we are being convinced to focus our energy on work activities rather than the rest of our lives.

  21. RacerX says 10 July 2008 at 08:48

    Having no (or giving yourself no) options in life is a prison. Think of it like a shark, they have to keep moving forward or they die!

    Even if you are working in a crappy job, make sure it is getting you towards where you want to go, even if that means you are just saving for school.

    BTW – Nothing wrong with Graduating at 30, 40 or more!

  22. Heather says 10 July 2008 at 08:57

    Almost every job I’ve gotten has come from connections – and often from connections at a previous job.

    Right now I feel overworked and stuck in a high-stress job that shouldn’t be stressful. It’s office politics and their unwillingness to hire enough people or outsource parts of a project. For a long time now, I have been fantasizing about telling them what I really think, reporting them to the DOL for refusing to pay overtime, then quitting. But that would be so unwise because you never know what the future holds.

    Instead, I have to remind myself daily that 1. I’m blessed to have a job that is flexible enough to let me work from home and choose my schedule so that I can be at home with my 7-mo old, and 2. I’m only doing this until my husband can find a job and we pay off the medical bills from his recent injury.

    If I had burned bridges and quit after my son was born like I wanted to, I wouldn’t have been able to go back to work when my husband was injured, and we would be in a pickle right now. So I am putting on a happy face and when I am finally able to leave this job, I will do so respectfully.

  23. Chris says 10 July 2008 at 09:08

    I first worked pouring foundations around pools after my freshmen year of school. Never thought I would do anything related to it ever again. Five years later I’m running a $3M project adding concrete columns and beams to an existing building. Everyone has more respect if you have stories of having a truck unload 4 yards for you to shovel around for the day.

    All of the experience is interrelated.

  24. Jessica says 10 July 2008 at 09:17

    RacerX,
    There’s nothing wrong with spending the next 6 years in a job with no opportunity for advancement and no benefits? Trust me, if it weren’t for my son, I would have quit this job a year ago. I’m National Guard, I’m not required to work for the Army full time. But I am a single mom and I receive no child support, so quitting this 40k a year job to go back to waitressing my way through college just isn’t an option for me anymore.
    Also, to keep this job that long, I’d have to re enlist for another 6 years (this job is only open to current members of the National Guard), which I really don’t want to do. Technicians, even temporary ones who have no health benefits, are not elligible for any other National Guard benefits, such as student loan repayments and re enlistment bonuses. I only have a year left to my contract right now, thats not long enough to get my degree.
    I don’t know if its worth putting in six more years here, especially when it would mean re enlisting with no bonus and putting myself at risk of future deployments when I have a child to take care of now. At the same time, though, I don’t know if its worth accumulating 60k in student loan debt to finish getting my bachelors before my Army contract is up. Sure, if I quit here, I get my student loan repayment benefits back and they’ll pay up to 30k of my student loans, but that still leaves me with a lot of debt.

  25. Heather says 10 July 2008 at 09:27

    P.S. I meant to say thank you thank you thank you for this post – It’s been part of a much-needed attitude readjustment and refocus this week.

  26. Suzanne says 10 July 2008 at 09:47

    Hi all,

    Like many of the posters here, I agree that putting in sincere effort at whatever you do–be it humdrum pay-the-bills job or super-fulfilling career–is a wise policy. I’d like to add, though, that there’s a reason for it beyond just the skills or connections even a seemingly meaningless job can bring you (although that’s an excellent point): your own sense of value and self-worth! I’ve learned that it’s a strain to live in a state of dissonance. If you spend your time doing something you really don’t want to be doing, there’s a hard-to-maintain disconnect between your heart and your actions, and eventually something’s got to give.

    We’ve all got some part of our lives where we want to give it all we’ve got–relationships, school, burgeoning career, hobbies, whatever. When you spend 8 hours a day doing the opposite of that and giving the least amount of effort possible, you’re saying to yourself, “What I am doing is not worth my energy in the slightest.” Then why put your energy into it at all? When your actions are badly mismatched with your values, it eats away at your integrity. It leaches your sense of well-being.

    Your “job” doesn’t have to be the ultimate fulfilling thing in your life. Just don’t let it undermine the things that are fulfilling. Even something as utilitarian as a job matters in deeper ways, even if you don’t want it to. So I’d say that it does your soul boundless good to find something worthwhile–*something* worthy of your effort–in your job…or else find another job!

  27. chmielix says 10 July 2008 at 09:55

    Good point. An extra mile at work resulted in position of a charge in hand with little command of english at that time (still not perfect though). That gave me significantly better money than my mates with years of service in some cases. Quite a funny thing seeing them asking me what to do. But they’ve gave up long time ago when they’d started that job. Any job. That’s their’s attitude. I consider my current position as a foothold for the next step. Matter of time and incoming opportunities.

  28. FranticWoman says 10 July 2008 at 09:58

    I’m all for giving each job your best – no matter the job. (it is in my nature, I do this regardless).

    However, I got fired from a “real” job for going above and beyone the tedious duty they gave me. I was new and on probabtion and they wanted me to learn the business from the ground up so I was to answer the phone at a busy desk during my first few months. As is my nature, I was up and running to resolve any problem that came my way (job involved patients, some who were in grave discomfort)via the phone line. I didn’t just “sit there”; I showed problem solving abilities and took great initiative. As I said, this is my nature.

    Welp, boss lady said I was “insubordinate” and did “too good of a job” (I kid you not) and since I was on probation they fired me. Funny thing is, they had lured me from my former employer due to those very abilities! :rolleyes. Thank goodness my old employer was so distraught I left them that they wrote up a job description I invented and threw money at me. Worked out in the end -whew!

    I wouldnt change those qualities of my nature, but it was worked against me in many jobs. Mostly, I am to do only the very specified duties, no matter how ridiculous the concept is. I’m thankful my boss now knows what I’m like and only hires ppl like that anyway.

    I also learned on my path that I can be fired for having principles. Another good lesson. How far will you lower your morals to stay employed?

    Sometimes the path is all about finding what works for you individually. I’ve had enough bad jobs and bad bosses to know what I will not endure for the sake of a paycheck.

  29. Carrie says 10 July 2008 at 10:12

    I have to agree with FranticWoman. It’s important to do your best (however YOU define “best” for yourself), but it CAN work against you. I’ve been in several jobs where I was rewarded for my good work by being given more work. This continued until I could no longer maintain the quality of my work. In another workplace, a burst of “best” work raised expectations of me, again to my disadvantage. Yes, do a good job, but don’t let your employer or anyone else take advantage of you in the process. In the end, it’s still just work, which is just one part of your life (we hope). I’ve been considered “uncommitted” to my so-called career because I’m not willing to work the 60 hours a week often called for in my profession. That’s why I still tell myself that it’s just a job. Otherwise, my work would take over my entire life. I work with too many people where there is nothing in their lives besides work, and if being unwilling to do the same (so I can avoid multiple divorces, health problems, developing a horrible personality, alcohol abuse, etc.) makes me a less-than-stellar employee, then oh well.

  30. Luis says 10 July 2008 at 10:16

    While I concur with your advice, I dissent with giving your “best” at your job. First, I would need to define what is your “best”. If your best means 100% then you might want to consider what precedents your are setting for yourself and the bar that you are raising. As a manager,boss,CEO,etc. they will expect your “best” at all times. In my eyes this might cause stress, hostility and even disagreements at your workplace. Since they already know your capabilities. This is not inferring or advocating to doing a mediocre job, but be conscious of your actions. I try to give 80% and excel at tasks that do not bother me or will not bother me to emulate in the future. In the eyes of my boss, that 80% is my 100%. Life is a game any way you look at it, we just have to know the best strategies to reach the finish line. Albeit, I’m young, I’ve been working since my teens and have adapted to this cruel “game”.

  31. guinness416 says 10 July 2008 at 10:24

    Good comments, Frantic Woman and Carrie. Two of my colleagues are “on vacation” this week. Right now, they’re sitting in the conference room reviewing some deliverables, rather than spending time outdoors relaxing or with their friends and family. Why the rush to give up free time and send out the reports? Because the client in question wants them before going on his vacation. The same guys have given up free time before, it’s madness, not going above and beyond.

  32. FranticWoman says 10 July 2008 at 10:39

    Carrie says: “I’ve been in several jobs where I was rewarded for my good work by being given more work. ”

    Oy! Been there! Still there!(made me laugh anyway). I stick around though because my current job gives me advantages important to *me* (but maybe not to others). I don’t mind the lack of reward too much because of the freedom, flexibility and general ‘put up with-ness” they offer me. Let’s just say I haven’t been on time in years….*cough*…

  33. J.D. says 10 July 2008 at 10:48

    Important point: by doing your best, I’m not advocating that folks become workaholics. Unless they want to…

    Balance is very important in life. I just think it’s a good policy to put your best effort into the things that you do. For me, anyhow, it’s more rewarding…

  34. Carrie says 10 July 2008 at 11:03

    But what is “best effort”? If I’m holding back on my day job to save energy for my more personally meaningful non-job projects, is that less than a “best effort” even though my work output is still excellent? Wise Bread has an article about a Japanese engineer who died from overwork. If that is the employer’s standard for “best effort,” then is it really worth it? I believe balance is important, but what if those in your profession believe that having a balanced life means you’re a slacker? Don’t get me wrong, I think it’s important to do an excellent job in whatever work you do. But “best” has to be viewed in context and does not always mean going all-out for the job. I prefer the word “optimized” myself.

  35. J.D. says 10 July 2008 at 11:06

    Carrie, that seems fair enough. I like the idea of optimization. Via chat, Trent and I have been discussing our different opinions more, and he made an excellent point: by doing the minimum at certain jobs, you’re able to focus on other things that are more important. As you say: “more personally meaningful non-job projects”. Again, I think balance is the key.

  36. zcratx says 10 July 2008 at 12:46

    Fantastic article. Presently I am in a job, where in spite of being good, have nothing to look forward to. I have wasted lot of time, resource and peace to get out of the rut. Now I am gonna take the slow and methodological approach of finding a new job. Let’s see how this work’s out.

  37. The Bargain Shopper Lady says 10 July 2008 at 12:46

    I totally agree with your motivational post! Are their ways to instill these values into our children besides just telling them to do their best? I know my dad had me working at age 14 and I always loved to work and worked my hardest (mainly because he was my boss for two years and made me be early for work and work hard!) Later, when I got my first real job at 16, as a lifeguard, I saved 9 people and was nicknamed Mrs. Baywatch! (I wouldn’t have saved them if I was sitting on duty asleep with hangover like all my other peers, that’s for sure!)

  38. Edward Moore says 10 July 2008 at 16:38

    Having just begun my professional life as an intern at a very big, very well-respected Fortune 500 company, I can relate to this article and found it inspiring. I work in the finance department, have aspirations to one day be a CEO of a company such as this one but sometimes have to force myself to see the bright side of being constantly asked to do things that seem menial and way beneath me. Photocopying cheques and registering them in a black folder seems to be the task of choice — a far cry from the kind of things I was learning just a month ago in business school.

    However, I do feel you contradicted yourself a little in the final paragraph. There are many, and I include myself amonst them, who would say that answering a telephone day in, day out would qualify as a “shitty job” and, in your opinion, shitty jobs deserve nothing more than the bare minimum. But didn’t you just say one should give one’s all in everything?

  39. Funny about Money says 10 July 2008 at 16:59
    What an interesting discussion…it touches on some questions I’ve been ruminating about for the last couple of years.

    In a job where you’re not paid equitably, how much effort really should you put in?

    In a job where employees are occasionally seen to get the shaft for organizational reasons having nothing to do with their performance, how much loyalty do you owe the employer?

    Why are we working, anyway?

    I spent many years of my academic career running myself ragged and indeed being congratulated in every annual review for the excellent work I did. Didn’t make my pay any better; didn’t make my workload any saner. Didn’t make me any safer from the arbitrary firing that happened to one of my colleagues in the same job class.

    Then I escaped teaching by moving to a low-level administrative position, where I again ran myself ragged to do excellent work. Though the 12-month administrative job was better paid than teaching (what isn’t?), all the hard work did nothing to make my pay any better; didn’t change the risk level of my exempt position; didn’t make my employer any fairer to me or anyone else.

    Over time I got very tired and very stressed. And I got very mad when the local paper published everyone’s salaries and I discovered a guy who does half the work I do running a related program earns $30,000 more than I do — on a nine-month contract. Then I looked around me and realized that mediocrity is the standard of the business world: I was the only one who was working her buns off around there, and I was receiving no real reward for doing so. No one even noticed!

    When I decided to cut the stress level, I realized that we conflate our “careers” with our selves. A career is a job. A job exists to put food on the table and a roof over your head. It is not our self.

    When you delete the distinction between “career” and “job” and you build a distinction between what you do and who you are, you gain a whole new perspective on the world of work.

    I now do the best I can on my job — within limits. I do only what is expected and no more. I do not put in 14- to 18-hour days, I do not work on weekends, and when I go on vacation I do not answer my e-mail or the phone. Amazingly, the work gets done on time and it gets done pretty well. My unit continues to earn rave reviews from our clients. And my last annual review — after 18 months of putting in as little work as humanly possible — was the best I’ve had in all the 15 years I’ve worked at that place!

    It’s true that if something is worth doing it’s worth doing well. But apparently it’s acceptable to do a job well enough and then stop.

  40. Nicky says 10 July 2008 at 17:14

    While you have a point about jobs/careers, I do think there is a different. For me, a job is something you do just to get by but don’t seek to improve yourself or advance (and improving could just be ‘doing the best you can’). A career is a path you take where you are mindful of continuous self improvement.

    My sister in law is a good example of this. She is a radiographer, studied very hard to become one, and refers to herself as a ‘career woman’ all the time. Yet she passes up chances for more training, and while she talks about wanting to be promoted, she doesn’t actually make any effort to pursue oppurtunities that come up. She just wants it to fall in her lap. So because she’s not making an effort to improve, I would say she has a job rather than a career.

    Me, I have had a job for many years and am now moving into actively making it a career again. It’s difficult, but it feels good too. 🙂

    • Jeff coleman says 16 December 2019 at 08:38

      I’d agree.

      There is a difference between a job and a career.

      I can do my very best and excel at my job, but if I don’t have an end in mind, I’ll just be doing jobs well, instead of building a series of employment, education, and networking opportunities into the goal I’m after.

      Having a career goal helps me to spend time and energy on things that can help me reach it, instead of on things that ultimately become unproductive distractions.

  41. J.D. says 10 July 2008 at 17:25

    Funny About Money’s comment is awesome!

  42. Brian says 10 July 2008 at 18:16

    J.D., I agree with your philosophy. When I was in college I worked at a retail store and I went from stocker to customer service supervisor because I did a damn good job. When we got a new store manager, I apparently impressed him enough that he wanted me to be an assistant manager. Much to his dismay, I was in school and couldn’t do it.

    I also think it boils down to having pride in what you do. Even when I have had shitty managers (like at another job where I was sexually harassed by a man), I still take pride in knowing that I do a good job. Why? Because I know I can and I expect good stuff out of myself.

  43. Naomi says 10 July 2008 at 19:16

    Thanks for the great post!

    I think the perception and definition of “job” versus “career” may be based in class background as much as one’s personal value system.

    Some people are intimidated and/or put off by “Career” as it sounds too daunting or foreign and only identify with “job” while your perception that “the distinction between a job and a career is artificial” shows that you are very comfortable identifying with the word “career.”

  44. Kaila says 10 July 2008 at 19:31

    Well said!

    Every job I’ve ever had has taught me SOMETHING.

    And I’ve never thought it’s okay to “do the minimum without annoying the boss,” except in a situation which was somewhat similar to your insurance-sales situation. (I didn’t want to be REALLY good at ripping people off).

    It might seem like half-assing a job would never matter, but I’ve found it’s a relatively small world, and you never know who your current boss might know someone in your next, better, job.

  45. Karl Staib - Your Work Happiness Matters says 10 July 2008 at 19:44

    Damn you are a good writer! I learn every day that I read you.

    I agree with your thoughts. We need to try our hardest to do great work. I understand where Trent is coming from and I know that I’ve been there, but when I became engaged with the job I always enjoyed myself so much more. It became more than just a paycheck. That’s what working happy is all about. Enjoying each step of the journey toward financial freedom.

  46. Sara at On Simplicity says 10 July 2008 at 20:07

    I have a hard time not doing my best. Even if it’s been a summer job, I can’t help but work hard. I think it’s just the way I was raised.

    But Funny About Money’s comment also hit home in that the extra initiative has rarely paid off in concrete terms. Often, it has meant getting more work placed on my shoulders for no additional benefits. I think you’re on the money when you talk about balance: doing enough to respect yourself and the people your job serves, but not to the detriment of your family and your other passions.

  47. Joe Bob says 10 July 2008 at 21:04

    I think it was Dr. Martin Luther King who said, and I paraphrase here, that “the true test of a man’s character is what he does when no one is looking.”

    Even if you hate your job and are miserable in it, you should give it your best shot — even while you are looking for something else.

  48. Rob says 10 July 2008 at 21:43

    Awesome post! This is why I read this site.

  49. Tom says 10 July 2008 at 22:12

    When I was young, I took a lot of temp jobs. I liked some of them, but didn’t like most. I tried to do my best at every one and often received job offers that I couldn’t accept. One day I was assigned to sweep floors in a factory for a week. Having no other temporary options, I took the job. It was tedious and boring, but I always seemed to finish early. So, I began looking for things to do. I started organizing supplies for the various departments, rearranging pallets to improve the efficiency of pulls when a product was being prepared for shipment, and several other simple tasks that made life easier for everyone. I even did some on the spot IT work after the regular IT guys when home for the night. Toward the end of the week, I learned that people were talking about the little extras I was doing. Apparently in 10 years, no one had bothered to think about the way things were organized. Eventually the plant manager wandered down to see for himself. He found me on my break reading a book while most people were outside smoking or goofing off. He offered me a position in the factory managing a team of 40 workers on the spot at a pretty attractive rate of pay and gave me hours that would let me stay in school full-time, too. I held the job for about three years while I finished college and during that time, I saved the company about $20 million in various efficiency improvements. It was a nice jump start to my working life and a validation of the lesson my parents taught me to do your best, especially when the work is lousy.

  50. jeffeb3 says 11 July 2008 at 06:27

    Hmmm. I like the idea of every job being part of your career. But I disagree in one case. You only have so much time and energy. Don’t waste it showing people where the alarm clocks are on aisle 10 when you could be spending it improving your education. Work ethic is something that needs to be learned, but even if you aren’t in school, you can learn more by picking up a useful hobby, or reading a book that expands the creativity of your brain.

    Recognize when the fastest track out of a job doesn’t have anything to do with your job. I think that’s what Trent was trying to get at.

  51. K.R. says 11 July 2008 at 10:37

    JD,
    thanks so much for this great analysis, you hit all the reasons I disagreed with Trent but couldn’t explain.
    Most important here is the attitude, how you approach a job and your career. Sure, waiting tables may not be on my resume and “rolling silverware in napkins” isn’t a career skill in my current field but the tenacity and reliablity I had meant something.
    My dad went through lots of job changes, engineer, designer, small time construction worker, manager, all these seemingly unrelated jobs for over 20 years. Then at 45 years old he becomes a construction manager that relies on every skill and trade he’s done in his professional life. Had he sat back in any number of those jobs and just skated along he would not be qualified for the work he does now.
    I think the job v career question has a tendency to encourage laziness or even entitlement. “I’m more important because this is my *career* the kid making minimum wage who files for me is just in a *job*” I’m a firm believer that if you don’t do what you love, or at least tolerate, then your job is to find what you do love. If you’re not willing to make the change to something better than it’s your job to be content and don’t whine.

  52. Chima says 11 July 2008 at 22:38

    I love my job, but I also love owning my own business with my wife. The goal now is to build the business until we both can quit our corporate jobs and run our company fulltime.

  53. Dave says 12 July 2008 at 10:07

    Great post J.D. and some interesting comments. One of my first jobs was working part time as a cashier in a convenience store; to this day, I work in the industry (for a different company) aa a district manager. Had I treated this job like just a crappy part time job, I most likely wouldn’t be where I am now.

    @K.R.
    “I think the job v career question has a tendency to encourage laziness or even entitlement. “I’m more important because this is my *career* the kid making minimum wage who files for me is just in a *job*”

    So true! When I was a manager of a convenience store, I would have some white collar customers (not many, but a few) that I could tell were looking down on me because I worked in a convenience store; especially if they didn’t know I was the manager. This was also true when I talked to people when I told them what I did for a living. I would laugh, because at that time, I probably made more after bonuses than most of them (and probably enjoyed my work more).

    As someone who has had to work two jobs before to make ends meet, I always tried to treat the part time job with the same regard as the full time job. Why? Because I needed the money, otherwise I wouldn’t be there. I would be just as screwed if I got fired from that job as my full time job; either way I wouldn’t be able to pay the bills. In that regard, both jobs were equally important. In many instances, I enjoyed the part time job more than the full time job because it was free from the pressures of worrying about advancement, raises or office politics. I could just be myself and have fun. The only problem was that like some others upthread have said about their jobs, I was often pressured to work more hours than I wanted to, as I outperformed many of my co-workers that didn’t have the same mindset.

    @Funny About Money’s question:

    “In a job where you’re not paid equitably, how much effort really should you put in?”

    To me, the answer is that you should put in as much effort that is required to do the job, no more no less. Often times, people confuse giving 100% and exceeding expectations. Giving 100% doesn’t necessarily mean working through vacations or working 18-hour days, but merely doing what is required of the job (giving 100% while you are there), as Funny sort of said later in her comment.

    I try to think of any job I take as a verbal contract between me and my employer. I do work which they pay me for. Regardless of how much or how little I get paid, I agreed to the contract. Bottom line, if I think your pay isn’t fair, then I would be finding a job that pays better or shouldn’t have taken the job in the first place. But until either of us decides to end this contract and as long as the paychecks clear the bank, I owe it to them to fulfill my end of the bargain, regardless of how well I believe I am compensated.

    While parts of it might sound like I disagree where she was going with the question, I agree totally. She was stressing out about her job and did something about it. Funny About Money couldn’t be more right when she said:

    “When I decided to cut the stress level, I realized that we conflate our “careers” with our selves. A career is a job. A job exists to put food on the table and a roof over your head. It is not our self.

    When you delete the distinction between “career” and “job” and you build a distinction between what you do and who you are, you gain a whole new perspective on the world of work”

    Ultimately, as important as you think you may be to your company, chances are they existed before you and will do so without you. It’s just a job, even if it’s a “career”.

  54. K.R. says 13 July 2008 at 20:42

    @Dave
    I’m in a similar situation now, working full time at a job that will advance my career and part time at a job that helps pay the bills. Just last night my manager at the part time job complimented me on my attitude and work ethic. It’s easy to look down on people in a blue collar field because we’ve been trained to believe the CEO is important, the president of the company is important. But every single person in the company contributes to its success or failure.
    To me it comes right back to attitude, I will thank and appreciate any worker who does their job well no matter how unimportant it may seem. I don’t respect job titles nor pay rates, I respect the people who earn those things or, absent earning them with merit, work to prove themselves with hard work.

    • justin chemmachel says 20 July 2019 at 08:36

      I love this post. Some take-aways i observed was that..
      – ATTITUDE is IMPORTANT
      – working hard is important
      – as long as you are doing your job(big or small) we must appreciate each employee with respect.

  55. Stephanie says 29 July 2008 at 11:37

    Thanks for the post. I agree – work hard, work with excellence. I have had some of the best bosses I could ever imagine and great experiences and professional development because of working hard.

    Unfortunately after a severe downsizing where I was I took a job that I thought would be great, but then had to resign from a job because of “integrity issues” or lack thereof within the organization.

    I was able to do this because I had an emergency fund and knew that I could survive for a good while without a job if I needed to. I know…pretty much everyone would say don’t leave a job until you find the next, but the job was “sucking the life out of me” so I knew what I needed to do.

    I can’t say it’s been easy. I think I was thinking in terms of “career” so being unemployed is really hard, but I’ve been able to wait it out finding a place that has integrity and works toward the things I value. Things are still being nailed down, but I should be starting soon.

    Anyway – this job upcoming came through networking, which is possible, because I work hard!

  56. alli says 25 August 2010 at 05:38

    I disagree i think a job is just something to pass the time till you find out what you want to do as a career because when u find a career you love u will never have to work a day in you life!

  57. Ed says 02 November 2011 at 12:45

    Came across this article recently. I believe the distinction of a job vs. career is in the attitude, outlook, and motivation of the worker. I believe the author suggests this while still saying there is no distinction. Two people can work at the same job and one may be content to continue to do the same job forever or until it folds. The other may always be looking for more asking himself “How can I advance”, “What new skills can I learn”, “What MORE can I do”. Personally I have always had this attitude. I can’t imagine not moving forward in my work life, whether it is a related or unrelated job. If I was a dishwasher, I would next want to be head dishwasher, then be in charge of the kitchen, etc. I would take on new responsibilities without being asked (of course navigating for a promotion).

    So I agree with the author to some degree. But just doing the best you can at a job is not enough to define a career. You must want to grow in related or unrelated jobs.

  58. Mary says 11 January 2012 at 09:24

    You are so right! I worked for a contracting company, me and my coworkers were happy; then like pawns on a chess board, some of us were forced to work for a different contractor (I say forced because the alternative was no job.),very much to my dismay, this guy should never have been given a contract…since we’ve worked for him, we are not happy, especially me, I won’t go into details about this guy. I have been looking for another place to work. Hopefully I’ll get something soon. But you are right.

  59. DJ in Pa. says 20 April 2012 at 05:53

    I disagree. In the debate over career vs. job, you missed a big factor. I would ask: “What is the most important aspect in your life?” My work is only second to occasionally spending time with my children and grandchildren.

    I come from a career-oriented family. My father, brother, and I have been about our work. My work is the axis of my life. I have had two businesses for the last twenty-five years. One career is in property management and the other career is a tailoring business. But, I have been on my own for the last thirty years. My children stayed with their father in the country when I moved back to the city. Building things is very important to me. It is a source of challenge, education, network connection, and personal reward. It has never been about the money. It is about how far I can go in my endeavors.

    As I look at Ann Romney, her focus is her family. For Hillary Clinton it is about her career. To me the word “career” is defined by what is most important to you. Maybe it is your family, but it also may be your work. 4-2012

  60. Bobalicon says 06 October 2012 at 11:44

    An career is a standardized line of work such as medicine, dentistry, law, educator, or pharmacist that requires highly specialized training.

    A job – on the other hand – looks at the worker as a commodity. For example, when the economy is bad, companies will lay off workers and/or enact hiring freezes. The only purpose of a job is to keep a company/enterprise in business; if companies could run themselves, there would be no need for jobs. That is the difference between jobs and careers.

  61. Julia says 29 March 2013 at 06:05

    A “job” is a lower-level posiytion that offers few or no advancement prospects. Also, “job” is a general term for employment. A “career,” on the other hand, is usually a higher-level position or profession that, most importantly, offers advancement and significant internal promotion prospects.

    • justin chemmachel says 20 July 2019 at 08:57

      After working for numerous companies for over a decade.. this is what is learned..

      To me a job is..

      – temporary (need to read and pay attention to signs) (sometimes it is time to go)
      – given based on need.. as it is a means to an (end/beginning).
      – meat and bones of the company
      – you will have brain space to create and build what you feel like is your passion.
      – Building someone else’s dream while you hone your own skills and perfect your ability to communicate.
      – are found
      – does not transform to something different

      Careers are..

      – tailored to the individual
      – seized via one’s desire to advance mankind
      – does not have a set location ex. job site
      – an extension of one’s personality, love, etc.
      – morphs into something (learning)
      – are discovered

      If you are like me.. you probably have been working several jobs to see what exactly you are missing.. perhaps you have found within yourself a quality/innate ability and you want to test your strength in it… maybe you are smart enough to know when to leave the company without causing physical, emotional pain, etc.

      READ, READ, and READ some more..

      whoever said that books are outdated material.. maybe right.. however in order to learn our future.. we must embrace our past…

      “what we leave behind today.. our children will encounter tomorrow” – anonymous

  62. Jen T. says 25 June 2013 at 03:59

    I agree with the general notion that within every job you take on lives a great take-away.

    My own personal view is a career is something that allows you to financially obtain independence while doing something you enjoy/are good at. Jobs can be fun (hey, I LOVED working at a local pizza joint when I was a teen because of the environment and people) but they seem to reside in the “scraping by” realm financially.

    I’m technically in a career right now but I’m just not loving it. I had this realization that I’m never going to be happy in a cube doing the same thing day in and day out but I don’t know where to go from here. I could go back to school but without direction I do believe I’ll spend a lot of money to effectively wander aimlessly thru it and likely end up somewhere else I don’t want to be.

    I do so wish the US had much more of an internship based education system for people to kind of feel out our choices more easily.

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