Preparing to Shop for a New Mattress Print
Wednesday, 15th July 2009 (by J.D.)This article is about House and Home, Shopping
On Monday, I mentioned that Kris and I are ready to replace our 15-year-old mattress. I don’t sleep well on it, though I sleep fine on other mattresses. I only mentioned this to illustrate a point, but I was surprised at how many readers commented on my situation.
Jason’s comment was typical:
I’ve found that sleep is the absolute root of everything. With decent sleep, I’m a better man, father, athlete, spouse, employee and all around person. With poor sleep, I’m just getting by at best, an irritable mess at worst.
I’d replace that mattress yesterday, as others have already said. Think of the other things you “just do” when they wear out and become unsafe or function poorly — car tires, toothbrushes, sponges, knives, ladders, etc. The mattress very easily fits into the same category.
Unfortunately, “an irritable mess” pretty much describes me lately, and I’m sure that a lot of this stems from poor sleep. I don’t need more convincing. I’m ready to purchase a new mattress. But how do I go about it without getting ripped off? For some reason, I think of mattress shopping in the same way I think about shopping for a used car.
In the same discussion, EBYT wrote that she sold mattresses while attending university. She offered the following tips for mattress shopping:
- Mattresses are hugely marked up (at least here in Canada). I bought one for staff price (brand new, not a display model) that cost 50% less than what we were selling it for. They still made money off of me. Either wait till they go on sale, or make sure you ask for a good deal. Good mattress/box sets start around $1,500 “regular” price.
- Make sure you buy a mattress pad so you get full warranty. The salespeople will try to sell you on the manufacturer’s 10-year warranty, but they don’t always tell you the warranty is void if you stain it.
- To go along with the warranty thing, always buy the matching mattress/boxspring set. Mismatching usually voids the warranty. The boxspring is usually only about 10-15% of the mattress set’s price so don’t try to cut costs there, or by using your old “perfectly good” boxspring.
- Don’t be afraid to test the beds on the showroom floor — that’s what they’re there for.
Another reader suggested buying a mattress from a warehouse club. Kris and I made a trip to Costco the other day to look at their mattresses. As always, the prices are great but the selection is poor. Plus, there’s no way to “sleep-test” the mattresses (which are just in a big stack in the middle of the store). Would it be bad form to sleep test at a mattress store and then buy from Costco? Could I even find the same models?
Finally, here are some articles about mattress shopping from other sites:
- Birds and Bills: Braving mattress sales, which says: “After a few glances at the mattress sales tags, which featured minimal text and explanation, I ended up giving up entirely on trying to “shop” by feature — latex? foam? coils? I had no idea which I wanted — and just road-tested a few. And … they mostly felt alike.”
- MSNBC: Don’t lose sleep buying the perfect mattress, which says: “Offer the retailer a couple of hundred dollars less than the one on the price tag. Be prepared to negotiate from there. If the mattress feels good to you, then that is the right mattress for you.”
- Slate: Going to the mattresses, which says: “If you can’t tell the difference between a $200 and a $900 mattress (I couldn’t, but maybe you can), get the cheaper one. They’re nearly the same, anyway. Anything over $1,500 and you’re just paying for prestige.”
- USA Today: How not to lose sleep over buying a mattress, which says: “The ‘best’ mattress comes down to personal preference — consumers are urged to test mattresses before buying. It also pays to know what’s inside each type — and why.”
In any event, it seems that Kris and I will soon be sleeping on a new mattress. I have my fingers crossed that this will give me better rest and, in turn, make me a less irritable mess!
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July 15th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Like you, we needed a new mattress. However, our current financial situation prevented us from spending that kind of money right now. We aren’t in debt, but my business is taking in about 40% less income than it was just a year ago, thanks to my clients who are cutting back on spending right now as well as a few who have gone out of business.
For about $120, we bought a memory foam cover from Costco. It’s fabulous. The only downside was the smell of the foam first out of the box — let it breathe in the garage or outdoors for a day or two first. We also have a mattress that is about 13 years old. This foam pad will enable us to get few more years out of our old mattress before we have to buy a new one. In a few years, hopefully, we’ll be in a better position to buy a new mattress with cash.
We also bought a couple of memory foam pillows from our chiropractor’s office — it really helped reduce my husband’s neck problems and subsequent migraines. Total cost was about $250 for everything, and we are both sleeping much better. Money well spent!
Good luck!!!
July 15th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
My friend’s dad once told him - always have good shoes and a good mattress, you’re usually on one or the other! Great advice I’d say!
July 15th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Oddly, buying a mattress is even more opaque than buying a car. It’s very unlikely that you will be able to find the exact model of a mattress you test drive in a store at Costco because there is a ton of white-labeling and different models (even within the same brand) depending on the distributor. Consumer Reports doesn’t provide mattress ratings because of the millions of variations and lack of consistency, but they do have a guide:
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/home-garden/bed-bath/mattresses/mattress-guide/
I always get nervous buying a new bed because of all these factors. My advice: spend as much time as you can spare test-driving. Lie on each bed for more than a few minutes, as the too-hard / too-soft revelations don’t come right away. And, if possible, buy from a place that has some sort of exchange offer within 30 days. We had to change up last time we bought a bed and I was so glad we were able to exchange.
July 15th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
One thing about price comparison or testing a mattress at one store and then buying at a warehouse club is that mattress stores do not use the same name for the same mattresses in order to prevent you from price shopping. Mattress salesmen are very similar to used car salesman. The funniest information I found online about buying a mattress was walk into your local mattress store, ask the salesman what is on sale and then yell in unison with him, “EVERYTHING’S ON SALE”. I ended up buying a memory foam topped mattress with a cooling layer (important for foam) from Costco for about half what most mattress stores were offering. I just pulled it out of the racks and lay on it on the floor in the warehouse for awhile, so I got a good test of the mattress and entertained the local shoppers.
July 15th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Don’t buy a pillowtop. Get a featherbed. You will get more out of it by flirting and cleaning it. That is fluffing.
July 15th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Stacy at Birds and Bills wrote recently about mattress shopping.
For my part, I bought a pillowtop mattress and boxsprings set from Costco about ten years ago, and it’s holding up extraordinarily well.
As far as finding a model of the Costco mattress to test elsewhere: you can probably do it, if you’re clever. Goods sold at warehouse clubs nearly always have unique manufacturer model numbers assigned just to the version sold by that club, but by comparing features you can usually figure out which regular model number it corresponds to. I haven’t tried mattresses, but I do that with appliances all the time.
July 15th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
We need a new mattress, too, but are waiting before we drop a bit of cash on it. I’ve been considering Barbara Flanagan’s advice, from Flanagan’s Smart Home. She recommends a 100% natural latex mattress for its long life - 20+ years, renewability and sustainability, and biodegradability. She cites a lot of other very good arguments I won’t go into detail about. You should check out the book; I think it’s up your alley.
July 15th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Also, if you’re planning on ever moving (houses or furniture) be sure and get mattress with handles. We’ve got a big floppy queen with no handles and it’s a huge pain to move.
July 15th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
I just bought a new mattress about a month and a half ago. I am fortunate to live in a large metropolitan area (LA) and there are many (probably a couple dozen) mattress stores within just 5 miles of my house.
I went in five or six different stores, gave the salesman my budget ($1,000) and let him give his spiel and show me the mattresses. I laid on each one a couple minutes and after a couple quickly got an idea what I really wanted. If you tell the salesman the best deal you’ve gotten so far, he’ll suddenly be able to match or beat it. After shopping for a few hours, I narrowed it down pretty quickly to three mattresses that met all my criteria and were quite close in comfort. I ended up with a queen size memory-foam pillowtop with foam encasement with boxspring for just a bit under $1000 out the door - on a mattress with a tag price of $2000. Make sure to negotiate delivery and disposal of your old mattress with the price and don’t be afraid to walk out on a good deal if you’re not 100% sold. I was also able to get $30 off since I didn’t need a new frame. 10 years is a pretty standard warranty but be sure to get a protector (I bought mine from Overstock.com, not the mattress store) to ensure it doesn’t get stained as this does indeed void the warranty.
July 15th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
My sister’s boyfriend (who is an AWESOME negotiator), recently bought a mattress, and he used similar tactics one would use for a car. He shopped around. He talked to a salesperson, mentioned that he had a few options. He negotiated, struck a deal, and then WALKED AWAY WITHOUT BUYING. Then he came back a few hours later and negotiated them down a few more dollars. When they finally settled on a price (and this just had me in awe), they rang it up and started to add on tax, he said “No, I’m paying X amount, and not a penny more.” He had them refigure the price, to include the tax. He walked out with the mattress he wanted.
July 15th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
When my husband and I bought a new bed a couple of years ago we went to an outlet store for a name brand mattress manufacturer. Many of what we saw were “last year” models and they took a larger percentage off the price of the mattress the longer it had been in the store. We decided that we liked a very firm mattress — apparantly we are in the minority because there were several and we were able to buy a set that had been there for several months. We paid about $450 the warranty and delivery included. Look around for an outlet store!
July 15th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
The biggest racket the mattress industry has pulled to date is the “no-flip” mattress. I think Simmons started it, and other companies followed suit, and now it’s virtually impossible to find a two-sided mattress.
“No-flip” mattresses are touted as being convenient and easy for the consumer, but in reality they are huge money savers for mattress giants - basically, half the manufacturing cost and mattress life at the same sale price. This is like advertising a “no oil-change car”, where the car still requires oil but the cap is glued on.
I bought the mid-range latex mattress from Ikea (queen size, $699) and I LOVE it. I’ve never slept better, I can flip the thing if I so desire, and it doesn’t get all “shweddy” like memory foam. I cannot endorse it enough. Latex seems to be the perfect happy medium for couples with different firmness needs, it lasts forever (my aunt has had hers for over 30 years) and it’s reasonably priced if you get it somewhere like Ikea.
July 15th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
My wife and I just bought a new mattress. Its a Keetsa, http://www.keetsa.com/
We were just down in California and went to their store in San Francisco and tried them out. We went with a coil spring with foam top mattress, Keetsa Pillow Soft. Its the middle one, not too firm, not too soft.
Last night was the first night sleeping on it, but it was good, much better than our Sealy. I’ll post back in a few nights about how it is.
As for the Sealy we bought it 5 years ago at the Costco Home store, which is now closed. But they used to have all the beds in stock all the time and setup to try out. Our course it felt good, but over time the mattress just started to sage in the middle.
We also found out they but a stiffer area around the edges of the Sealy since alot of people just sit on the edge to test beds out. So it holds up better for showing in a store.
Last night we took back the bed to Costco, no questions asked and got a full refund. So at least if you buy a bed from Costco and don’t like it, you can take it back.
Ken
July 15th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
I love it and it was a good price.
July 15th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Wow, I’m fascinated! When I moved to Portland I went to PJ’s Sleep Shop on Hawthorne and bought myself a mattress and boxspring for $250, which included frame and delivery. I have no qualms over my bed and it’s still in fine shape four years later. I had no idea most people spent so much, or haggled so much, or found it so difficult. I count my blessings — I guess I’m just an easy sleeper?
Good luck with the purchase!
July 15th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
In my experience, it’s virtually impossible to find the exact mattress at two different stores. Sometimes you may find similar features at two locations, but not to the extent where I would definitively say that it’s the exact same thing with a different name.
I had very good luck finding a queen size mattress at Sam’s Club maybe 4 years ago, and paid maybe $400 (mattress & boxspring) for what I believe is comparable to a $750-$1,000 furniture/mattress store. (I normally avoid Sam’s & Wal-Mart, but I did make an exception in that case, given the vast price difference. I’m willing to pay a little extra to a locally owed store, but not 3 or 4 times as much.)
When I went looking for a king size mattress after getting married, I found that the discounts at Sam’s were far greater for the queen than it was for the kind, enough that I wasn’t willing to take the risk of the lack of a better chance of trying it out. We saved a bundle by NOT getting the matching boxspring, (which would have been maybe $400 extra) and got one elsewhere for $100. I do not believe it affects our warranty, nor would I believe it would for many others, given that many beds are not designed to accommodate a boxspring at all, or are only designed to go with one of the “low profile” boxsprings.
That said, I have no experience with returning a mattress under warranty, but my assumption is that it’s impossible, given all the other conditions. Everything I looked at had some sort of “inches of sag” requirement that I cannot fathom ever being met, short of parking my car on it for a couple days. Even horribly-broken in mattresses don’t sag multiple inches when no one is on them, and it’s the increased give when weight is applied that is the actual defect.
July 15th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
If you have an Ikea near you, they have excellent mattresses (no assembly required!). They are also very economical, but make sure you test one out first!
July 15th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Thanks, Karawynn! I added a link to Birds and Bills in the body of the post.
July 15th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
We also bought our mattress from IKEA. (In fact, we have an IKEA mattress on our bed and on our guest bed too.) I can’t for the life of me remember which styles we purchased, but I was very pleased with the range of prices and styles offered. Plus by shopping at IKEA we were able to lay on the sample beds as long as we wanted and we didn’t have to deal with any bed salesmen either. (Avoiding bed salesmen isn’t as important as trying out the beds, of course, but it sure was nice to be able to make a decision without someone hovering near us!)
July 15th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
I’m not sure how this didn’t make the final cut of my article, but here’s a story I meant to include but apparently edited out:
In April, Kris and I spent a weekend on vacation in Bend, Oregon. We rented a house with some good friends. We do this every year, and we actually rent from one of our friend’s family members.
Anyhow, Kris and I had the “second-best” bedroom this year, and the bed was amazing. It’s been years since I slept well at home, but sleeping on this mattress was no problem. It was awesome. I felt rested all day long.
“We should write down the make and model,” I said as we were packing to leave.
“I’ll remember,” Kris said. (I could never remember something like that.) She claims she still knows the info, but I’m going to try to check with our friends first to see if they can have somebody check on it for me.
My thought is: I’ve tested this mattress for three nights and know I love it. I might as well get the same model. I have no idea what it will cost, but I do know it’s a pillow-top…
July 15th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
I recently did some shopping around for mattresses, and I found that I really hate the “used car”-type sales people at stores dedicated to only mattresses. I really hate haggling and readily admit that I am no good at it. I ended up buying from Sears, they had a nice area with sample models that you could lie on, non-invasive salespeople, clearly posted prices that are lower than most other places (lower if there is a sale on), and they deliver (mine was free, part of the special), and cart away your old bed. They didn’t have a huge selection, but I am not a really fussy person when it comes to beds. I think I will buy any future beds there too. I don’t work for Sears, and don’t usually even shop there.
July 15th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Also: Kris and have questions about the boxspring. Is it necessary? We’ve removed ours from our bed and have been going without it for the past couple of weeks. Neither of us has really noticed a difference. What’s the boxspring for?
Actually, I’m going to go google this…
July 15th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
I pretty much disagree with all the advice listed. My biggest concern was with getting a mattress that had toxic fire retardents (like bromide). Do some research on the fire retardents, they’re nasty stuff, linked to breast cancer and a bunch of other fun things. They are in any common mattress, you have to go out of your way to find natural materials like wool, latex, memory foam, etc, that won’t have it.
We went with Savvy Rest, a natural latex bed. It was $1800 for a full sized, but it is supposed to last about 30 years. No toxic fire retardents required.
In most cases you can’t test the Savvy Rests (we are lucky to have a local distributor) but you won’t find any complaints about them. I absolutely love ours.
For toxic free lower cost, I agree with the IKEA latex. Latex feels a little funny at first (like not firm enough), but again, you won’t ever hear complaints.
Do some research on the fire retardents before buying.
July 15th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Although you can often return a mattress if you don’t like it, it’s a hassle. I was considering a Tempur-Pedic a few years ago and discovered that some friends had one. A few weeks later, they were away for a weekend, and invited me to spend the night at their place and try out the mattress. I’m glad I did because I didn’t like it much! So, try “sleeping around” and see if you can find the perfect mattress that way.
July 15th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Wow - didn’t expect my comment to be mentioned in your latest post - blinked a couple of times lol. I’m a “she” by the way, but no worries - no way to tell
I am a big fan of COSTCO, but don’t know a lot about their mattresses. I would go for it if you know that it’s returnable for a 100% refund. They have some great discounts. Usually 2 weeks is a good enough time frame to judge whether a bed is working for you or not. Sometimes it takes a while for your back to adjust to a new bed. Look for stores with a good return or exchange policy (look for terms like “sleep satisfaction guarantee”).
Yes, the big manufacturers have a lot of mattresses that are similar in different stores, but under different names (the Serta “Panda” at one store was the same as the “Gold 4000″ I bought a few years back, for example). This is where going to a lot of different stores comes in handy.
You’ll notice a lot of beds with memory foam and latex foam, and some beds that are advertised as such (the top few inches are memory or latex foam vs. being built into a pillowtop). If you’re a hot sleeper, I would NOT recommend buying a bed that is labeled as latex or memory foam. They REALLY absorb & radiate heat. If these materials are built into the pillowtop then that is a different story, and they do tend to help with comfort (my bed has a half inch of memory foam built into the pillowtop).
Oh, and don’t be afraid to get a soft bed. They’re all built with back support in mind. My bed is one of the softer ones that was on the market at the time and I still love, love, love it.
As far as the beds being no flip, that’s because a lot of them have pillowtops that are 10″ thick and it would not make sense to have a mattress that is even thicker with that on both sides (you’ll need to buy deep pocket sheets for most mattresses on the market today as it is). Rotate the mattress head to toe every 6 months and you will be fine. Some settling of “comfort” layers is normal.
I don’t know if you can see my email (comments requires it), but if you can, feel free to send me a message if you have any more Qs.
July 15th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
When shopping for a bed, spend at least 15 minutes laying on it before deciding. If it stays comfortable for that long it should fit your needs. Falling asleep, as Mark did, would cinch the sale for me.
July 15th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
I highly recommend looking into a “hotel bed.” These beds are designed specifically for individual hotel chains. You buy a new bed, it is not a used bed. My wife and I purchased the W Hotel bed. We love it!
Check out the dealnews.com link for a 40% off coupon. We used it to purchase our bed and all of our bedding.
http://dealnews.com/The-W-Store-coupon-40-off-no-minimum/302777.html
July 15th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
I love my matteress from the Denver Mattress Company. The think what sold us was their price and construction. The had actual leading brand mattress cut aways on the wall and you got to compare the construction to the ones made by the Denver Mattress. For the price, they had more springs, and material than the other name brands. They are at the furniture rows in WA and OR too.
July 15th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
@ebyt (#25)
D’oh! I apologize for the mistaken gender. Totally my bad. (Especially since I can see that your e-mail address contains a female name.)
I appreciate the tips, and Kris and/or I may very well e-mail you with questions. Thanks for the offer!
July 15th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
Haha ok thanks J.D.
July 15th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
My wife and I LOVED The Original Mattress Factory. Much like #28, they had cut outs of the competition and of their own beds and they took the time to explain why their beds were better. And there was no pressure at all.
We shopped at a few “normal” mattress stores and it felt a lot like buying a used car from the shadiest people in town. They make it hard to comparison shop because “Everything is on sale” (but, only through the weekend and the one you’re interested in is the last one they have in stock.)
July 15th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
Try a ComforPedic mattress. We bought one a few years ago after laying on all kinds of mattresses including memory foam and latex. This bed uses a combination of the two to provide good comfortable support that’s not too hot and is available in several firmness levels. We absolutely love the mattress. We bought from Mattress World since we like the idea of supporting their local ownership. They also seem to be pretty active in various charity activities, which I think is nice. We did haggle a bunch, but the sales people were kind about it.
July 15th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
A couple of years ago it was time for a new mattress. My better ½ and I had some out of town trips and stayed in a few hotels. At one point we stayed at a Marriott in Nashville. The bed was UNBELIEVABLE. So much so we took off the sheets to find out who made it. Jamison from North Carolina…very pricey…. I saved up and now have this incredible bed. It just sucks you in and puts you to sleep…just what a bed should do!
July 15th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
I worked for a furniture liquidator in high school and one item we always sold out of as soon as we got them in were mattresses. We would pick up slightly used mattresses from hotels (a lot of better chains replace their mattresses every three years), clean them and resell them for under $150 per set.
There are some pretty strict laws about how these mattresses must be cleaned, making them a perfectly safe option. I slept on a used mattress for several years. It was great — high quality, comfortable and cost me almost nothing.
If you do shop from a furniture liquidator, it’s a bit luck of the draw on exactly what they’ll have in stock — but if you’re looking for something specific, you can usually convince them to call you if they get it in.
July 15th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
The boxspring supports the mattress. If you don’t use it, the coil alignment in the mattress will be screwed up eventually. VERY IMPORTANT to use unless you have a platform bed (pretty much a slab of wood vs. the 5 or so slats beds usually come with).
July 15th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
I would say look for a place that builds their own mattresses. In a couple of states, there is a place called Original Mattress Factory that made a bed that I still use occasionally and have used for longer than 10 or 15 years. When I switched to a bigger bed, I bought one from there, and the salesmen were not pushy in the least, and the prices were reasonable. I would highly suggest it.
July 15th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
A while ago I found the following website very helpful in explaining what’s going on when you buy a mattress:
http://www.mattressscam.com/
There are lots of ads at this site, but I found the information useful.
July 15th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
I just recently (2 days ago) pricematched an online distributor cymax.com at Sleep Country USA, and saved 50% off of their advertised retail on a Simmon’s World Class Plush Pillowtop “Madrid”. I was shocked at how willing they were to pricematch. The online store had free delivery, no tax, and Sleep Country also hauled away the old bed. The “retail” price is a joke! I only now wonder if I could have gotten even 60-75% off the retail price. I do love my new mattress, and feel like I got a great deal.
July 15th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
With Costco’s liberal return policy, I think you can test out beds and then return them if they don’t give you a good night’s sleep. They’ll also have a larger selection online. We got our memory foam mattress online and love it.
July 15th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Just got a 1 inch latex topper for our 2 year old Cal King. The springs in a bed will hold up pretty good, but the foam and padding will eventually compress. Our bed was getting lumpy (initially mistaken for spring sagging) in our spots and the topper has made a world of difference.
So I’d say get a nice firm bed without a ton of padding and then add your own comfort layers. I like the feel of latex (little bit of spring) compared to memory foam.
July 15th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
Hi J.D.,
Definitely NOT bad form to test one out in a store and then buy at Costco! We tested a bunch out at a mattress store and we both really liked the Tempurpedic Celebrity. But 5 grand + tax for a mattress?! NO THANKS!
We ended up purchasing online from Healthy Foundations. We ordered their 13″ mattress and it was delivered in the mail. We LOVE it! And best of all, it was only $2079 shipped (no tax) instead of over $5000. They have a 1-year return policy in case you don’t like it, but if you like Tempurpedic, it’s a safe bet you’ll like this one as well.
I was really glad to get rid of our 8-year-old mattress. I’ve heard Costco has good memory foam mattresses, too. Just buy from someplace that has a good return policy and don’t be afraid to return it if it doesn’t work out.
And whatever you do, don’t buy a Tempurpedic!
-Erica
July 15th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
@ebyt wrote: “If you’re a hot sleeper, I would NOT recommend buying a bed that is labeled as latex or memory foam. They REALLY absorb & radiate heat.”
I think this used to be true, and it was a concern for us since we live in a warm climate. The Healthy Foundations 13″ mattress has something called a “CoolMax” layer on top that’s supposed to prevent this. It sounded like marketing BS to me, but with a 1-year guarantee I figured it wouldn’t hurt to try it out.
I have no complaints…you can sleep directly on it and not feel warm like some of the older memory foam mattresses and pads! Pretty cool stuff (no pun intended
I think times have changed, especially for the pricier memory foam.
-Erica
July 15th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
Holy cats! GRS reader Garrison just sent me a l-o-n-g e-mail from his friend, a mattress salesman. The e-mail contains all sorts of fantastic tips for mattress shopping. I know it may seem strange to have two mattress-related posts in a short period of time, but I’m going to ask permission to re-post the e-mail here at Get Rich Slowly. Maybe I’ll post it once Kris and I are done with our shopping. Some great stuff here.
July 15th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
I have a platform bed. I think boxsprings are the hugest ripoff going - AND they’re a pain to move (I’ve moved 9 times in the last 16 years, though the pace is slowing). My parents never had a box spring either, and I met a woman from England who says no one has them over there (I forgot to look for that when I was in the UK this spring).
Let us know what you find out!
July 15th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
The Costco out in Hillsboro has tester mattresses and a much wider selection that most. It’s a bit of a drive from SE, but we got ours there and LOVE it. You could look online and if you see any interesting call the store and ask if they have display models. I’m pretty sure they had one example of every model.
July 15th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
We bought our last mattress from Ikea — a midrange inner-spring, and I find it quite comfortable. Since we got a bedframe with lots of slats, no boxspring. Featherbed on top is lovely, too.
July 15th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
We purchased our last bed from the factory showroom in a city about 100 miles away. It was located in a lower-rent district but had an enormous range of beds of all price ranges set up to try out. Sales people were helpful in providing information but not pushy. Even adding the cost of shipping we ended up with a good price. Disposal of the old one was no trouble. The local Habitat for Humanity resale store was happy to pick it up for resale, since it had been well protected and was unstained, even after 30 years of use.
The bed which felt best when lying on it in the store was a low-medium price. We had both slept on a twin size of the same model at a friend’s house, and she had a king of that model which she liked.
CAVEAT: We didn’t BOTH lie down on the bed in the store at the same time. It was wonderful with one person on it; but with the weight of two bodies, both of us immediately rolled toward the middle–on a brand new bed! We later learned from another buyer that this was also a problem on the queen size with this model, whereas the extra support provided by the center rail of a king frame avoids this issue.
Had we lived in the same town as the manufacturer, we would have traded for a different model. Because of long distance shipping, however, we took a different approach: simply put the 3/4″ plywood board which we’d used on the old bed between mattress and box springs on the new bed. No more rolling to the center. The new mattress is less firm than the 30 year old one we’d been using, and the cushioning on top is an improvement. Also, we find that as we get older it’s easier to get up from a higher bed.
Would we purchase from this distance again? Yes, we would certainly consider it if the price difference warranted.
A side benefit is that we were able to replace the mattress on an electric hospital bed at the same time for a very reasonable price, and shipping cost didn’t change. This manufacturer supplies mattresses to most of the nursing homes in the state, and the sales rep. was able to guide us in the most appropriate direction for our needs. Since our current use of this bed is more for guests and for occasional use when someone in the family is ill, he recommended that we consider purchasing a standard mattress instead of a hospital bed mattress. He warned that it would not hold up as well under heavy use of the head and foot adjustments, but suggested it would probably be more comfortable as long as it did last. That has certainly been our experience, and we greatly appreciated the guidance in that direction.
And, if you can’t afford a new bed for awhile, a 4′ x 8′ 3/4″ plywood sheet between mattress and box springs can revive some pretty bad mattress/box spring sets very inexpensively. Measure your mattress and have the excess cut off when you purchase it. Cut the plywood about 2″ narrower than the mattress.
July 15th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
We bought a memory foam mattress on Overstock and we absolutely love it. No springs required, we don’t notice any excess heat (we live in Florida and run the AC very conservatively). We got a king pillow-top firm for about $700. It came UPS in a duffle bag and grew to full size in about an hour after opening.
No more aching shoulders for me and not stiff back for my husband, we’d buy it again in a heartbeat and our only regret is not buying it sooner.
July 15th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
We got a floor model Tempur-Pedic type mattress from Macy’s Home a few months ago. It was orginially about $2500 and we paid $700 for it. Because it was a floor model, half of it is firm and half is soft, which is perfect since my husband prefers a firm mattress and I like a soft one. Maybe some people wouldn’t like to buy a floor model mattress, but it didn’t bother us!
July 15th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
JD - please do post the e-mail if the writer is fine with it. I’m curious about the great tips! I’m not in the mattress market now (being a petite person helps keep the weight load down and less wear on the coils) but I know I’ll have to get a new one at some point.
July 15th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
Any new mattress I have ever slept on had a strong chemical odor for a good week after taking the plastic wrap off. While I am not advocating that you don’t purchase a conventional mattress, I am advocating that you let it air out a bit before sleeping on it. Inhaling that stuff can’t possibly be good for you.
July 15th, 2009 at 6:33 pm
@ Ken #13
Am understanding correctly? You slept on a mattress for 5 YEARS and then asked for a refund?
WOW that is unbelievable.
July 15th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
J.D please post the e-mail from the mattress salesman! I’m going to be in the market for a new mattress really soon, and have NO idea what to look for. But it really must be done, DBF and I are a wreck all day and don’t sleep too well on his 15 year old, springs coming out, and bent boxspring bed!
July 15th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
I went through this ordeal about a year ago when we moved house.
I’d definitely recommend avoiding spring matresses (they only wear out anyway) and get one of the memory foam based models with an emphasis on low partner disturbance. Not a cheaper one, trust me you’ll get a longer life out of it.
It takes a while to get used to no springs moving about, but trust me, after a week of the best night sleep you’ve ever had you’ll love it.
July 15th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
I had to laugh when I read the part about trying out a bed, and Kris remembering the model number. Every store uses different model numbers AND names to confuse you. There is very little chance of finding it, and this is one of the ways mattress comparison shopping is made virtually impossible!
We had the unfortunate experience of leaving a cat at home on vacation with no access to her litter box. A friend came to check on her after a day, but by then she had already used our bed as her litter box. (ew!)
We needed a mattress that day, so we went to Ikea. We ended up buying a cheap king mattress ($300) with a more expensive cover ($350). We tried out all the combinations until we found the one we liked the best. I’ve never had a more comfy bed.
We also bought my son a new mattress from Ikea. He chose a latex mattress, and I have to say it’s just as comfortable if not moreso than ours!
The 2 great things about buying from Ikea:
1) take it home that day!
2) no salespeople trying to upsell us
Good luck shopping!
July 15th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
I remember seeing signs at IKEA that they seem to have a decent exchange policy if you don’t like what you get too.
We will be in the market shortly so I too look forward to any tips.
July 15th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
We (regretfully) bought a thick non-flippable pillowtop King about 2 years ago that (on the showroom floor) felt absolutely devine. At the time we were experiencing a lot of additional stress with our business, waaay overpaying at $1800.
Despite rotating it head to feet and back several times as recommended, within 12-18 months it had developed two deep and uncomfortable wallow-like indentations where we each slept (OK, we’re not exactly *tiny* people, but at 150lbs for me and 200lbs for hubby we’re not XXL, either).
Checked with store on warranty; turns out that since at delivery they had to slightly bend mattress in the center longways to fit it up our narrow staircase a notation had been made in the internal paperwork that nulled all warranties. Bummer.
Desperate for a solution, we flipped it over onto its lumpy, scooped out pillowtop, exposing the uber hard but perfectly flat bottomside, bought a memory foam topper from Costco for about $120 bucks, slapped it on, and it now feels and sleeps like a DREAM… I love it!
July 15th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
I’m sure you’re getting no end of opinions on this…
The key to a restful sleep is having your spine straight and aligned when you’re sleeping. I sleep on my side. My partner sleeps on his stomach. For, us, memory foam and the right pillows do the trick.
We got a great deal on our first memory foam mattress from Costco, and our second from Overstock.com Compared to spring mattresses, futons, etc., I’ve never slept better. And the mattresses last longer.
July 15th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
My story:
Looking for low-partner disturbance (I’ve got a few lbs on my wife) and really enjoying the comfort, we decided we wanted memory foam but that was out of our budget.
So instead of paying big bucks for a fancy name brand, I Googled: foam wholesale city, st, which returned a list of foam wholesalers in my area. I called around and told them what I wanted: to make my own memory foam mattress. They were on board with it and cut foam to my dimensions. They even suggest I could save money by not doing all memory foam and also recommended a place that would sew on a cover.
$500 later I had my custom memory foam bed, and this was back when they were going for thousands.
I love it and sleep especially well knowing what a good value I got.
Hat tip to Dwell who published a reader’s letter that gave me this idea.
July 15th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
I work in Customer Care at a furniture store. The best advice I can give you is to go to a major retailer, not Costco. A lot of the larger furniture dealers offer 30 day guarantees. My company offers a 30 day comfort guarantee for a small fee you can reselect to something else (and they give you two weeks to do it after the 30 days; in fact today I took a call from a customer who bought the mattress in April and due to extenuating circumstances couldn’t get in contact with us in time. I spoke to my manager and we are going to let them come in to reselect.) Also, depending on the company, they offer extra protection if you buy their mattress pad. My company will match the manufacturer’s 10 year warranty if you buy their pad and will extend that warranty to cover stains and rips. (They will even cover bodily fluids! (Most places won’t.)) My company will clean the mattress, if they can’t clean it they will replace the mattress one time for free. I’m sure that other companies will offer this, and it costs about the same a mattress pad would.
Also, be sure to ask how the warranty works. If you make a claim do you need to contact the manufacturer yourself or will the store handle it? (At my company we send our technicians out to measure it, deal with the claim internally, and have you into the store the next day to reselect.) Despite what someone posted above you CANNOT use the mattress handles to move the bed. If they rip off your warranty is voided.
You do not need to necessarily use the matching boxsprings. If you have a platform bed you don’t need them, if you have existing boxsprings and you haven’t changed the type of mattress (i.e. latex to latex; or springs to spring) you may not need the boxsprings. It’s very important to also make sure you pick the right size, do you need 5″ boxes, or 9″? If it’s a King they don’t make regular boxsprings, they come split (doesn’t affect comfort/warranty). If it’s a Queen you have the option, but will a regular Queen box fit up the stairs?
Another good point someone made above is to treat it like any other large purchase. Don’t however go in thinking I will spend X amount. If you have the money go in thinking “I need to sleep better. I need this to destress my life.” And lay on all the mattresses. If the most comfortable one is $600 buy it; if it’s $6000, that sucks, but 80% of your life is spent through sleep (Hardly any mattresses cost $6000, and we only sell about 3 a year, you’ll probably spend around 1,000-2,000.) Definitely price shop. Definitely walk out after getting a quote, come back, and when they write the order up state “I will only pay [reasonable amount].” A customer did that at my store and we knocked about $500 off their order.
Other key things to bring up: Do they offer free delivery? (A lot of mattress companies [Sealy, Stearns and Foster] will pay the company to deliver the mattress. Don’t pay for delivery.) Will they remove the old bedding? (My company does for free.)
Lastly, treat this as an investment. Sealy, Stearns, and Tempurpedic all offer 20 year warranties on some of their beds. Look at what the return will be. Sure, you can buy a $300 mattress from Costco but in 19 years when your mattress is defective will they refund every penny to you for a new mattress?
Actually one last thing: do not remove the bedding law tag! You will void your warranty even if you purchase extra protection. The tags are the only way to track how old your bed it. Keep your original receipts, most companies only hang onto them for 10 years.
P.S. - If you tell larger companies the ‘name’ of the mattress you are looking at with another company they can usually find a match in their showroom (because they know what their store calls that mattress!) If you have a savvy enough salesperson you’ll walk away happy with a price you can live with. (If you lived in New York I’d tell you to stop by my store so I could get you the best deal!) Good Luck!
*Edit* If you find the manf and model # of the bed you slept on bring it into a larger retailer. They may be able to special order, or find something close. It’s worth a try.
To the person whose worried about hazordous chemicals: Larger retailers are now offering organic options that forgo those materials. I think Sealy (possibly Simmons) just came out with a line (unfortunately it’s specifically geared for my store but they may have similar lines at other retailers.)
JD, if you or your wife have any further ?s drop me a line. I don’t want to advertise for my store here (against company policy) but I will do what I can to help you out. I know a few bedding rep’s and can get your questions answered ASAP!
July 15th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
If you can get away with it… I’ve been sleeping on the floor for the past year and a half. Never been better
Great support, and infinite arrangement options depending on what you have around (sometimes just toss my 3 different-thickness blankets in the middle of the room — random bedding!)
Of course, everybody that knows turns their nose, and I’ve been threatened with harm (and a forced cot purchase) by a friend if I don’t “get my act together” soon.
That leads me to the next adventure in non-mattress sleeping arrangements: Hammocks. Indoor hammock stand build underway.
All that to say, mattresses aren’t the only option =)
July 15th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
I definitely recommend Mattress World. After doing a ton of research on mattresses, I realized (as others have mentioned) that it’s almost impossible to compare models from store to store. With all the slight variations, re-branding, and custom models for particular stores, they don’t exactly make it easy.
Mattress World was local, they had a large selection, and there was a “30% off everything in the store” sale. We arrived at the store 1/2hr before closing just intending to peruse and ended up purchasing a mattress an hour later. The salesman didn’t rush us at all and was more than happy to stay past closing.
As far as mattress types go, this was more or less our thinking… Typical innerspring mattresses can be quite comfortable but don’t have long warranties. Select Comfort (”Sleep Number”) beds are comfortable, adjustable, and have 20-year warranties. However, the warranty is prorated after the first 2 years and the two couples I know who have purchased them had to replace the pumps after a year or so. Memory foam has a long warranty, but it’s hard, slow to adjust to your body (making it uncomfortable if you roll around much), and tends to hold in the heat. Latex is comfortable, has a long warranty, and adjusts to your body much faster than memory foam. Needless to say, that’s what we ended up getting.
I love pillowtops but was a bit concerned about how long they would hold up. I didn’t want to have an otherwise nice bed ruined five years later by a squashed pillowtop. The mattress we got has a pillowtop made out of latex or something (I can’t remember right off) and springs right back. If it sags more than 2″ during the 20 year warranty, they will replace it for free.
Anyway, I’m not sure if it was just the salesman we had or what, but I didn’t have to haggle at all. At one point while my wife and I were looking around, he came up to us and said, “I was just on the phone with my supervisor and she said I can give you 40% off anything you buy tonight.” Obviously, that was a huge incentive to buy something that night. We finally settled on a queen size Englander latex mattress which ended up being about $1,700 after the discount and went to check out. We got a nice waterproof mattress pad for around $150 minus 40%, and the salesman threw in a sheet set for free. A quick note about the mattress pad: If you try out the mattress and decide you want to return it, there can be absolutely no stains on it, so the mattress pad is good insurance.
As if this comment isn’t already long enough, here’s a few more random thoughts:
- Latex is h-e-a-v-y. It takes some serious effort to rotate the mattress (it has a pillowtop so you can’t flip it, just rotate)
- We’ve had the mattress about a year and it’s showing no signs of wear. It’s just as amazingly comfortable as when we bought it.
- Box springs. I don’t get it. Mattress manufacturers would have you believe they’re an integral part of a bed. We have a platform bed from Ikea, and if we’re missing out on something, I sure can’t tell.
- Get ready for sticker shock. Mattress stores are famous for sales. When I walked into Mattress World, I just about wet myself from the prices. I knew everything was 30% off, but it’s still shocking to see all the “original” prices.
OK, I’ll shut it down now. Good luck on the shopping and feel free to e-mail me if you have any questions.
July 15th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
We have a memory foam mattress from Costco. It *does* absorb a lot of heat, but we also have jersey sheets, so I’m sure these combine to make it worse. I should get around to buying new sheets…
Heat issue aside, I LOVE it. I have a horrible back. Traditional mattresses exacerbate the pain. On the memory foam, I can sleep flat without a pillow, if my back so demands.
July 15th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
usually there’s plenty of room at the warehouse clubs to lay the mattress out and get a quick feel for it. just go when it’s not too busy and no one should be too annoyed. i’ve bought/helped buy several mattresses over the years at Sam’s Club and everyone’s been happy with them. of course, if you just don’t like what they sell (very limited selection as you say) you’ll have to look elsewhere.
July 15th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
Whatever you do JD, don’t skimp on a good mattress. Check out the medium firm pillow tops and happily spend $1,000 if you can. With the amount of time spent sleeping, it’s a no brainer!
Gluck!
Rgds,
RB
July 15th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
Okay, I know it sounds crazy, but I am going to post the e-mail from the mattress salesman sometime soon. He gave me permission to do so. I’ll wait until Kris and I actually buy our mattress, but then I’ll do it.
About our mattress hunt (as mentioned in comment #20): My friend was able to track down the type of mattress I like. It’s from Costco, which is great. If things go well, we’ll be sleeping on it by the weekend. Maybe even tomorrow, if I can borrow the van from the box factory.
July 15th, 2009 at 10:55 pm
@Gina
Hell yeah we did. Sorry if a company makes a product with a 10 year warranty and after a couple years it goes to crap why wouldn’t we. The bed had actually been bad for a while, but we just dealt with it.
And one of the selling points when we were buying the bed at Costco was that we could take it bake for a full refund if we ever had any issues with.
And so we did.
Ken
July 16th, 2009 at 3:19 am
I’ve got a latex mattress from IKEA. I went for latex because I’m allergic to mold and apparently mold doesn’t live on latex mattresses as well as on foam ones.
That’s one difference to consider that you can’t feel just by test-sleeping in the store.
July 16th, 2009 at 3:29 am
I’m really looking forward to reading that email. I always love reading tips from ‘the inside’, especially for something I’ll be shopping for in the coming months. Hope you post it soon!
July 16th, 2009 at 5:49 am
I bought a new mattress last summer after 10 years with the same one… it’s actually a futon because I can’t stand springs and I also dislike soft beds.
With a firm, good quality futon, my GF almost completely eliminated her back pains. We also sleep soooooo well at night.
A queen size firm futon cost me approx $600.
Although be warned, once you get used to a GOOD QUALITY futon you’ll never be able to sleep on a regular mattress again.
July 16th, 2009 at 5:53 am
Sherry & John over at Young House Love recently went through buying a new mattress, and had some great info to share! They ended up getting a nice natural latex one, and that really appeals to me!
I have a long-healing shoulder injury, and our mattress is barely cutting it anymore. The worst part is it’s only about 5 years old! However, it was a really cheap model that my husband and I could afford while in university. I’d like to replace it, but it’s not really high on our big-ticket item list yet.
The mattress I slept on at a child (still in the guest room at my parents’ place) is amazing and even after 20+ years is still the most comfortable mattress I’ve ever slept on. Too bad it’s a twin size! :p
July 16th, 2009 at 6:13 am
When my wife was pregnant, we needed to get rid of the old mattress, her back was killing her constantly.
We ended up with a Select Comfort sleep number bed and it has been the greatest matress we’ve ever had. We both have our sides set to our preferred settings and if our preferences ever change, it’s just a click away.
We’ve had it over 4 years and it is excellent.
July 16th, 2009 at 6:23 am
Let me answer some of the posts You should read Sara’s post it is full of good info except be careful of comfort exchanges some have hidden clauses and can cost more than original mattress.
Buying a cheap bed is just plain bad. A bed is a very important health aid and like many things you will pay for it later in life. If you read about REM sleep you will purchase a good mattress to start.
The latex recommendation is a very good one for support,lack of pressure on the body, dust mites and other allergens free, large initial cost but cheaper when averaged out over time.(go to any major spring manufacturer’s website and you will see they say a mattress should be changed every 5 to 7 years because of contamination.
Mattress pad is unnecessary but a good mattress cover is important. If you don’t know which are good see protect-a-bed but it isn’t the only one.
The suggestion to use mattress toppers is not good they should extend the mattress comfort not provide it. In general they use lower forms of foam than the mattress itself and wear out quickly need replaced making your mattress purchase more expensive than it should be.
July 16th, 2009 at 6:47 am
You’re hoping to still be a mess, just a less irritable one?
July 16th, 2009 at 7:04 am
From my Aug ‘09 Sam’s Club receipt - queen size mattress = $498.76 and, right now, they are even cheaper - around $350. They are probably trying to make space for Xmas items….
July 16th, 2009 at 7:15 am
@Erica: I can’t speak for everyone or every mattress, but I worked there just over 2 years ago so it hasn’t been that long, and I had customers tell me that they were burning up on the memory foam mattresses, so just something to consider I guess. Maybe some of the more expensive ones do have cooling layers now.
July 16th, 2009 at 7:26 am
I’m sure this has all been said at some point in the previous 70+ comments, but when we were searching for a mattress a year ago, going to different stores, multiple times, and laying on many different beds was invaluable. And then trying out ones we liked again on a different day—we often found that we didn’t like them as much a second time, and our solid first choice early on ended up being much less desirable.
Our final choice came down to two models by the same company, the main difference between them is that one was $100 more (although it was on sale, the other wasn’t) and had a memory-foam pillow top. When it came down to it, we opted for the slightly higher-priced one, with the justification that it was likely we’d go out and purchase a topper for it at some point down the road and would probably spend at least $100 on one then.
But to reiterate some of the comments: you should definitely buy a mattress cover. Any type of stain on the mattress voids most warranties, so it is a solid $50 or so investment, so to speak.
July 16th, 2009 at 7:28 am
The best sleep I ever had was on my futon - no box spring, just a good mattress on a wood frame. It was about $700 new but was awesome. Unfortunately my wife doesn’t think it’s nice enough for the master bedroom.
Next time we go mattress shopping I’m going with something natural - like a featherbed - that doesn’t have the chemical smell like most products sold now. Last thing I want to do is be sleeping on something 8 hours a night that is emitting chemicals right up my nose.
July 16th, 2009 at 7:33 am
Definitely check out IKEA! They have recently put a lot of focus on expanding their range and quality of mattresses. You could save a lot of money!
July 16th, 2009 at 7:39 am
This is location-specific, but we just bought a Sleep Designs mattress from Bubba’s Beds (I know!) in Spring, TX, and had a GREAT experience. The salesman was friendly, knowledgeable, and not one bit pressuring.
We immediately liked a mid-range bed, and he didn’t ever try to steer us toward the more expensive models. Sleep Dynamics mattresses are all made in the US. We have a platform bed, and the price without the box spring was terrific (with the box spring was still pretty good).
They only have locations in Spring and Tomball, TX, but I recommend them. http://www.bubbasbeds.net/
July 16th, 2009 at 7:59 am
I second getting a platform bed. They are standard in Europe and eliminate any need for a box spring. We bought one for practical reasons - we couldn’t fit a queen box spring up the stairs of our old home - but we have grown to love it. We had to spend about $500 on the platform, but it has a great headboard and will save in the long run, since we never have to buy a box spring again. Check them out if you are in the market for a new bed.
July 16th, 2009 at 9:06 am
When I moved in with my boyfriend a month and a half ago, he got my good knives and pots, and I got his bed. I still think I won more
July 16th, 2009 at 9:56 am
I have a fairly good mattress, but was curious about the Tempurpedic mattresses with the “Memory Foam”. Some people I know hate them and others love them. They are a lot so it’s a big chunk to swallow if I’m in the first group.
I did a search and found a place called thefoamfactory.com (or something like that). They sell the memory foam mattress pads up to 4″ thick. I had read somewhere that 4″ is overkill so I got the 3″ thick mattress pad for something like $154. I LOVE IT! So does BF.
For the future, I will probably buy a bare basics mattresses and just supplement with a new pad as it wears out. I’ve had this pad for over a year and it’s still like new.
July 16th, 2009 at 10:04 am
I like memory foam and find that you can get great deals on thick memory foam mattresses at Overstock.com. See what you think. I currently have a set of the pillows and they discolored after two years of continuous use, but are still firm, cool, and comfortable, although yellow-ish rather than white as they originally arrived. I think I paid around $40 for two including shipping.
July 16th, 2009 at 10:04 am
The advice I will throw in. Look up and see if there is a local mattress factory in the area. Maybe I am just fortunate, but there is a direct to costumer mattress factory near my house that my family has been buying from my whole life. You will get a mattress at easily half the price. The place that I deal with is all family owned and the customer service is second to none.
And I agree with everyone that say a good nights sleep is a cure all.
July 16th, 2009 at 10:23 am
Like many previous posters, I agree that mattress selling/buying is akin to selling/buying cars. Mark-up is huge, hard to compare, big sales commissions etc. And, like many, I agree that you should buy a standard firm mattress and top with feather bed or memory foam. Easily replaceable in a few years if necessary.
July 16th, 2009 at 11:00 am
The last time I bought a mattress I used 1800mattress.com (10 yrs ago). Great company, great exchange policy, competitive pricing, got shipping free at the time.
One note, before that purchase I had got a pillowtop Sealy locally. I lived to regret that purchase. After about a year my shoulders started hurting. Since I travel a lot I noticed that didn’t occur in most hotel rooms. Turns out that since I’m a side sleeper with my arm typically up under my head the pillow top was throwing off the angle on my shoulder. Got the new mattress from 1800mattress without a pillow top and shoulder problems disappeared within a week. Yah!
July 16th, 2009 at 11:35 am
Looking forward to mattress hints. My husband and I dipped our toes in mattress shopping a couple months ago, and found it confusing, hard to compare similar mattresses, and potentially very expensive. We have a firm mattress with no additional padding. It isn’t that old but has become uncomfortable. We tried a 3″ memory foam pad but it didn’t provide enough back support for me, and my husband detested the feel of it. I thought we would have to buy an expensive 1K+ bed to find something we both liked. As a last ditch bought a 1.5″ latex topper and our bed feels 10x better.
Based on what I read here I think for next time I will either get a Ikea (maybe latex) bed, or a basic firm bed and get a latex topper for the top that can be periodically replaced. Call me old fashioned, but I also do not like the idea of a “no flip” mattress.
July 16th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
I like the old full-motion waterbeds, but my wife nixed that years ago. We’ve gone through Spring Air, Denver Matress Company, other cheap mattresses, one very expensive mattress, a heated gel mattress with a memory foam top, and a 22″ high double pillow top mattress (that was a real joy to find sheets for)… and now are considering the sleep number air bed or perhaps just another mattress from Sears. I think the lesson I’ve learned over the years is just find something reasonably priced that you like, and plan on replacing it in 5 years. Buying a very expensive mattress doesn’t guarantee it’ll last longer, so just accept the planned obsolescence that the matress companies build in, and buy a new one when it sags.
Nobody can advise you on what mattress is right for you because there are so many different body types and sleeping patterns. If you REALLY have trouble sleeping, ask your primary care doctor to refer you to a sleep disorder clinic. You may need a CPAP!
July 16th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
My wife and I definitely overspent on our new mattress. We got sucked into the Sealy mattress display room while we were buying new bedroom furniture, and upon testing about 10 or so of the 30 mattress to choose from, we picked a better than average Sealy. Even though there is a 20 year warranty if it loses more than 1″ of padding (by permanent compression or foam degradation) where its apparently replaced, and it was an excellent feeling matress, I know that we overpaid in retrospect.
A matress is probably one of those things where you should buy an average model which will be comfortable enough, and expect it to last only 5 years or so and then replace with another.
July 16th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
I’ll be brief. Here goes:
1. Look at Latex mattresses…they are a little expensive but last,last, and last. They are incredibly supportive too. They don’t transfer motion like spring mattresses either. Natural is best but synthetic are very, very good too.
2. Don’t get Tempur Pedic….too hot in summer…rock hard in the winter…hard to move around on one…they are just odd.
3. Don’t pay full price…mattresses are like used cars…use the same tactics. It’s crazy but true.
4. Comparing styles is somewhat difficult because different stores rename the mattresses. However, my last purchase…Sterns and Foster Latex comes in something like 4 types, firm, plush, ultra plush….etc…just ask which one is the plush and it shouldn’t matter the name.
5. Buy a good pillow too…here, tempurpedic do ok…still can get hot though…but it’s not your whole body.
6. Get a King Size bed if your room allows…you wake up less with your spouse in the bed…I’m a light sleeper so this is a must. Spend the money now instead of later.
7. Don’t get a crazy pillowtop mattress…they crush down…form body molds…
8. Get a latex mattress…yea, it’s worth repeating.
July 16th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Much more interesting conversation than anticipated!
I hate memory foam. I slept on it once at my in-laws’ house; once it “memorizes” your shape you’d better not move! I am a wiggler so it’s no good for me.
Our current mattress came from a furniture liquidator. It was a hotel mattress for 1 yr and cost us $99, king size plus box spring. 4 yrs later it’s still great. However that liquidator is closed - plus I think that was a one-time deal - so we’ll have to come up with something else next time. I shopped around for a mattress when I moved out of my ex’s place, and I hated it; too many choices, prices through the roof, annoying salespeople. I love both Ikea and Costco so would probably go with one of them in the future. Limited selection is a good thing in my book!
July 16th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Two years ago, we bought a “Natura” (www.naturaworld.com) natural latex mattress. They also offer organic mattresses but we actually liked this one better. We got it from a local “natural” sleep store, we spent a lot of time lying around on the various ones, and since it was a quiet time in the store, no one bothered us. The owner was actually quite helpful and didn’t do the hard-sell with us. I have chemical sensitivities and did NOT want a mattress with fire retardants etc. on them. Natura actually required a letter from my doctor and then they made the mattress special for me without the chemicals etc. We are super happy with it. Yes, it cost a small fortune, but it’s definitely worth it. I have a bad back from a 1996 car accident and this is the only mattress I’ve truly been comfortable on since then. Also, latex is AWESOME for people with allergies since the evil little dust mites can’t live in them. After sleeping on a latex mattress, I’d never go back to the other kind. We also have 2 Ikea latex mattresses (one for our son and one for our extra bed) and we are extremely happy with those as well. They also don’t have the chemicals on them, because they have to adhere to better European standards. For anyone in Seattle, another great option is http://www.soaringheart.com, they make their own mattresses and the staff was very mellow and helpful. We almost bought one there but liked the Natura better.
July 16th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
I bought a new mattress a few years ago. First I went to HOM furniture. I did try out their various designs (pillow-top, non-pillow top, firm vs not-so-firm) and found out what I liked. I was ready to buy but the salesman was absolutely horrible–condescending, insulting, etc when I asked questions. So I left.
I ended up buying a similar style mattress & box spring mail order from Pottery Barn. They delivered the new one, put it on the bed, and they took away the old mattress & box for the same price as what HOM wanted. It was sooo nice to avoid that horrible salesman!
I think the key is to visit mattress showrooms enough to discover what kind of firmness you want and whether you like the pillowtop style or not.
Then just buy one of reasonable quality and expect to spend around $1200 for mattress+box. Figure on buying another in 10 years because no mattress will still feel great after that.
July 16th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
I’m utterly surprised at not seeing a long line of tempurpedic recommendations. Everyone I know that actually owns one cannot stop finding good things to say about them. My best friend sold me on them after watching my husband and I throw good money after bad probably 30 times in our 12 years of marriage, trying to find a bed that would allow both of us sleep well.
We’d tried to fix the problem with new mattresses. Over time we’ve had the no-name cheapy, the Sealy, the Simmons and the 100% Latex. None of them solved the problem. We were constantly exhausted, running on fumes, even with adequate quantity of sleep, we were not getting any good quality.
Throughout our quest for good sleep, we also tried just about every mattress “topper” product on the market. We had baffles, feathers, down-alternative, memory foam, high-loft, prima-loft, egg-crate, rejuvenators, multi-zone…you name it.
We have a set of high-quality fleece sheets which were damaged beyond repair with less than 6 months of use (pre-Tempurpedic), simply because I would toss and TURN (essentially rotating 360 degrees multiple times each night) and I stretched them out beyond what they could recover from. Every morning I’d wake up with a pile of fitted sheet scrunched up underneath me from the turning, whether the sheets were fleece, flannel, silk, satin, cotton or bamboo.
Essentially, we threw money down the drain on just about every product possible just to AVOID spending money on a Tempurpedic.
Tempurpedic has a “line” of different beds just like most other manufacturers, but it’s not so much about “the-pricier-the-better”, but rather different styles that fit you. We went to our local stores to try them out, and even tried the same model at multiple stores to see if it really was the one we wanted. In the end, it was the free-trial that convinced us to actually take the plunge. What other mattress company allows you to sleep on their product for 90 days, then will happily take it back if you don’t like it? It’s an amazing offer that says a lot about the faith the company has in their own product. I’ve purchased electronics equipment with shorter a WARRANTY than the bed trial.
This is definitely the ONLY bed I’ve ever slept in well, as an adult. (we went with the Rhapsody bed) No more never-ending spiral of money down the drain for every new promising product. We sleep well. And when we don’t (let’s face it, if someone tells you they sleep great all the time on anything, they’re lying), it generally is either because we didn’t go to bed early enough or because we’re having problems that we worry about instead of sleeping. But since we got our Tempurpedic 3 years ago, not once have I had a bad night’s sleep because of the BED!
Jennifer (looking forward to yet another restful night, sinking into my cuddly Tempurpedic Rhapsody)
PS - One more quick thing. I suffer from unbearably hot feet. I can sleep if any other part of me is hot, but when my feet get hot, I am MISERABLE! I have had this since I was a little kid, and the only way to get around it was to stick my feet out of the covers, where they’d eventually cool off and I’d go back to sleep…then they’d get COLD and wake me up and I’d have to start all over again. That is one more problem eliminated with the Tempurpedic. Not once have I suffered a “hot foot” episode, which used to occur several times a week at least.
July 16th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
We’ve got a mid-range IKEA mattress and pillow top on our bed and are pretty happy with them. The guest bed has a lower-end IKEA mattress which we don’t like nearly as much, but it’s okay.
I really like that IKEA sells the mattresses and pillow tops separately - you can pick out which combination you like best, everything can be flipped and rotated, and if there’s an unfortunate messy accident, you can get away with keeping the mattress and replacing the pillow top.
July 16th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
A few folks have already mentioned it, and I don’t know whether or not it’s an option for you but The Denver Mattress Company offers EXCELLENT value.
http://www.denvermattress.com/
July 16th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
Go with the mattress that Costco sells (Sleep Innovation?Novafoam?), I’ve bought it. This is the similar technology to Tempurpedic. My wife & I are very satisfied with our sleep and recommend this highly to anyone shopping for a new mattress. This is excellent value for money and can be used without box springs.
July 16th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
Definitely treat mattress shopping like you would for car shopping - it’s all negotiable, there are many shady tricks, and you might get ripped off even with a major “sale” price.
My first experience - I was railroaded into trying and ordering the top of the line special before I even knew what features I wanted or needed. Called to cancel my order because I realized my gullibility that same day, and, without any prompting from me, they literally dropped the price by $800 so I wouldn’t cancel. If it was that quick, they must still be making a handsome profit.
July 16th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
Hi J.D.!
My husband and I bought our first mattress for our first home not long ago and found some fantastic ways of saving big bucks in the process.
First up, we opted for a platform bed. Actually, because my husband is rather clever with materials and had a good idea, he built the bed himself out of salvaged, beat-up plywood. A bit of time and some very inventive staining techniques resulted in a gorgeous (and extremely sturdy) bed that people thought we purchased in a modern artsy furniture store. More importantly, platform beds preclude the need for a boxspring. I dislike boxsprings, the very concept of them seems wasteful in terms of money and materials.
Next up, we hunted down our mattress. We visited a whole bunch of stores, and when we went into one of the mid-to-high end stores, we hit it big. The sales lady asked us where else we were looking and why, and we told her straight up that we were on a pretty strict budget. She then said to try out the mattresses in the store and find one we liked, and she would see if she could find that mattress in the warehouse listed as “unsellable.”
Why are they unsellable? Because if the mattress has a smudge or a mark on it - probably caused by a hole in the plastic packaging that let in a bit of dirt - it cannot be sold on the salesroom floor. They end up getting rid of them by offering them at steep discounts.
We found a mattress we loved, and to our luck there was one with a tiny smudge in the warehouse. Hey presto, we got our brand new mattress at a 55% discount! This is an excellent brand name mattress that is unbelievably comfortable, and would have been out of the price range we were looking at had it not been for it’s status as “unsellable.”
I had to look REALLY hard to find the smudge, and a damp cloth and careful dabbing removed it. Granted, the store didn’t make nearly as much profit off my sale, but I’ve since sent two other people there and they’ve each bought mattresses from that store.
So yes. Find a reputable mattress stores and ask them about damaged, smudged, imperfect, or otherwise “unsellable” mattresses. It’s remarkable how much can be saved.
Also, in terms of comfort, we found that pocket coils were heads and shoulders above anything else we tried. They really do have better support, and we can hardly feel one another moving and flailing during the night (we are both…uh…active sleepers).