After my post about mattress shopping the other day, Garrison contacted me. “My home just flooded and due to renters insurance I was thrown into the market for a new mattress,” he said. “I called up my long-time best friend whose entire family is in the mattress business. I used his advice in my purchase and I’ve been completely satisfied.” Here’s what Garrison’s friend, Justin, had to say.
I’ve written a lot here to help you buy a mattress. Once I started thinking about this, all sorts of information came back to me. Here are a few things to keep in mind:
Make sure there is at least a 30-day trial period. This is a deal-breaker and you should absolutely not purchase a bed without this guaranty, no matter what else they are offering. Most beds take 4-6 weeks of sleep to really break in and feel how they are going to feel long-term. Don’t give up on a bed after a few bad nights right away. Your body will have to adjust to the new bed.
You should only use a bed about 10 years. Don’t pay more for a bed just because it has a warranty longer than that. The one exception would be a Tempurpedic-brand bed. Those come with long warranties and should last longer than 10 years.
Remember that if you need to get rid of your old bed, a lot of places will do that for you if you have your new bed delivered.
Beds are expensive. For a decent king size, you’ll spend anywhere from $1,200 to $4,000, depending on what you are willing to pay for. Realistically, I’d recommend closer to $2,000 than $1,000, especially for a king size. King sizes typically run about $300 higher than queens. Keep in mind that over 10 years a $2,000 bed is only like $15 per month, and you spend 1/3 of your life in bed, so it is probably the best “value” of anything you purchase. You get what you pay for when it comes to mattresses.
Ask for a “low-profile” box spring. They will make the bed 6 inches lower to the ground than a regular box spring and should be the same price. You usually have to specifically request that sort of thing. You might have to wait a few extra days to get the bed then.
Remember that you will need a new bed frame for a king size bed. A frame is going to run about $50 at the low end, to $100 at the high end. I’ve never heard of a frame breaking, so I don’t know why you would need a high-end frame. The salespeople get bonus commissions on those though, so they will try to sell you one if they have them.
They’re also going to try selling you a “mattress protector” or “mattress pad.” If it is a cushioned pad, then don’t bother; you are getting a new bed so why in the world would you need a pad for it, right? But, if it is a waterproof style that comes with a stain warranty for the bed, then it is worth thinking about. We used to sell mattress protectors that cost $80, and they had a 10-warranty that if the bed stained through the mattress protector, they would give you the purchase value of the bed so you could get a new one.
The reason this is important is because if the bed gets stained or ripped, you will lose the 10-year warranty and will lose the 30/60/90 day trial period. They won’t take back a stained or ripped bed. Also, you can take the protectors off and wash them and they prevent mold from forming inside the bed and get keep the bed fresher overall. They really are a good buy.
Here are the brands to focus on:
- Simmons (either the Simmons Beautyrest or Simmons Black lines)
- Sealy Posturepedic
- Tempurpedic
- Stearns & Foster
If you venture outside these brands, you are taking a chance. In my opinion these are the best four, and are considerably better than the alternatives. Serta is popular at the lower price points, but I don’t think they’re really worth their price, from a value perspective, especially at higher price ranges. Simmons and Sealy are better options at the upper ranges.
Bed tips
The most important thing is that you lay on the bed for a couple minutes in the store the same way you would lay on it at home. If you don’t like it in the store, you won’t like it at home (you wouldn’t believe how many people think they will like a bed better at home even though they don’t like it in the store).
If at least one of you spends a lot of time sleeping on your side, if you go with an innerspring mattress I recommend a Simmons Beautyrest. The coils are uniquely designed and are great for side-sleepers because they are “individual pocketed” rather than all connected together like on most beds. Also, if either of you move around a lot and disturb the other person, the Simmons Beautyrest will cut down on that disturbance some. Second choice would be a a Sealy Posturepedic, which is what I have. It is a brand more designed for back-sleepers, but they make great beds.
On the other hand, if you are willing to try something new, Tempurpedic or Stearns & Foster are great brands. They aren’t innerspring though. [Note: The author says that Stearns & Foster does offer innerspring mattresses now.]
Tempurpedic is made from visco memory foam, and Stearns & Foster is made from latex foam; no springs in either one. People either love them or hate them. They are very unique. They are fairly firm, but I know plenty of people who prefer soft beds who absolutely love these even though they are firm. Plus, you won’t feel the other person moving around on the bed at all. The Tempurpedic is the bed that has the infomercials where a person jumps up and down on the bed and the glass of wine doesn’t spill that is sitting on the bed. That actually works.
If either of you get hot during the night, then you will want “natural fibers,” like wool, silk, etc. Polyester is bad if you get hot. But, if you spend over a $1000, then all the beds at that price range are probably natural fibers.
Dealing with a salesperson
If the salesperson is any good, he will actually be your best resource.
Mattress salespeople are pretty good at finding the best fit for customers — if you are willing to answer their questions. If you return the bed they lose the commission, so they do want to find the best fit for you. They might try getting you to spend some extra, but if you stay firm to your price max then they won’t push it because they are all so desperate right now that they won’t want to make you leave. The more information you give them, the more they’ll be able to help. The worst thing that can happen is that you spend a few extra bucks and get an even better bed. No big deal.
If the salesperson starts talking about “coil counts,” they either don’t know what they are doing or are just trying to sell you on the bed. Coil counts don’t matter unless that is the only difference between two beds. The coil type and steel gauge are much more important.
If you are looking at an innerspring mattress, ask whether the bed has any kind of “edge support.” The edge where you get out of bed is the first place that will break down, so the mattress should either have some type of heavier steel gauge for the coils or some sort of heavier foam around the edge.
The salesperson might want to do a “comfort test” with you by laying you down on two or three beds as soon as you get in the door, and the price might be really high on those couple beds. Go ahead and do it. It is just going to help him and you narrow down the options by eliminating a bunch of beds based on their firmness/softness levels.
Here’s some advice about specific stores:
- Ashley Furniture is a decent company, but their furniture tends to be overpriced. I’m not sure whether their mattresses are also overpriced, but that is something to keep in mind.
- Sears sometimes has a good mattress sale. Looking at their prices online, it looks like their “regular” prices are overpriced, but their sale prices are very good, so that might be a good place to look as long as they are still on sale when you purchase. Sam’s Club and Costco don’t have the trial periods, and they don’t let you lay on the beds in the store, so I’m wondering if Sears is the same way.
- Macy’s is majorly overpriced. Avoid them. They overprice their beds more than anybody else in the business. I’m talking several hundreds of dollars too high.
If a store is willing to negotiate mattress prices, then they are overpriced, so make sure you get them down a considerable amount. Mattress manufactures contractually set minimum prices that they allow retailers to sell their mattresses at, so they either have to price them at that minimum or overprice them and negotiate. Most of the larger chains just price them at the minimum right away.
Update: The author of this e-mail/article provided some follow-up in the comments below.
J.D.’s note: I know it’s strange to post on the same topic twice in three days. But after I mentioned this e-mail in the comments of our previous discussion, I received many requests to share the information. I hope it’s useful to those of you who are looking for better sleep! Sleepy’s photo by The Truth About. Bed photo by Caterina, one of the founders of Flickr!
This article is about Gurus, Hints and Tips, House and Home, Shopping Friday, 17th July 2009 (by J.D. Roth)


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July 17th, 2009 at 5:36 am
Brilliant post. The mattress I’m currently sleeping on I’m disappointed by, having not known anything about mattresses when I made the purchase. Now when I go back to a shop I’ll be much better informed - thank you!
July 17th, 2009 at 5:38 am
Thanks for the great post. I’ve been reading your blog for a while. I was surprised by what you said about negotiating mattress prices. My wife and I bought a bed a few years ago at a major retailer and they brought the price down considerably, so I was under the impression that negotiating the price was always necessary. Sleepy’s was our culprit, but then again we didn’t shop at other stores so I can’t say we did our homework thoroughly.
July 17th, 2009 at 5:39 am
Oh, one thing I would add is look for mattress liquidators (example: http://www.mattressliquidatorsonline.com) as they quote great prices.
July 17th, 2009 at 5:56 am
Wow, great post! One of those purchases that rarely come up but when it does, you want to do it right. Thanks to Justin for the great info!
July 17th, 2009 at 6:00 am
“Mattress salespeople are pretty good at finding the best fit for customers” - I had to chuckle at this item. A few years ago, when I was buying a mattress for my son’s bed, I wanted the same kind of pillow top mattress I had. A salesperson actually told me to buy a cheaper/less comfortable mattress because “children don’t really need the extra comfort”. Like my son was not worth the money. Needless to say, I walked/ran out of that store. I eventually bought a very nice pillow top mattress at another store. The salesperson there adviced me to buy the waterproof mattress protector, in case there were any “accidents”, and that was good advice.
July 17th, 2009 at 6:01 am
Great post…I always felt misinformed when shopping for a mattress. We planned on getting a new mattress in the next year, but I think with this info we might start shopping a little early. Thanks
July 17th, 2009 at 6:01 am
My wife and I just bought a mattress (Seriously JD, why is it that we’re always doing the same thing at the same time…) We found Sleepy’s too salesy. We bought our mattress, a sealy I think, from a local independent Mattress store because we liked how it felt and the price was very reasonable. They threw in the mattress pad for free.
Having a new mattress has reduced the number of times I wake up at night. Very much worth it
July 17th, 2009 at 6:12 am
You’ve *never* heard of a frame breaking? I can think of 3 just in my circle of friends.
July 17th, 2009 at 6:34 am
Two years ago, we made a HUGE purchase at Havertys. We bought a Temperpedic split King-size with each split side separately adjustable (like the Craftmatic commercials). We also purchased a very nice frame and matching bedside stands (our first nice furniture in 13 years of marriage). WE LOVE IT, both the Temperpedic and the adjustable frames. We did 30 months, 0% finance - around $9k for all - but we love it and hopefully (knock on wood) should never need to make another mattress/bed purchase in our lifetime.
July 17th, 2009 at 6:38 am
We just bought a new Stearns & Foster king size bed from Sealy’s Mattress and More stores. It has individually pocketed coils, and my wife loves it (I still miss my waveless waterbed, but she’s hated it for years). I can agree with JerichoHill, though. I don’t wake up near as much as I used to.
This is perfect advice, though. I found similar information on other websites and used it in the store. We probably laid on 10-15 different beds over 3 different stores, and definitely did the 5-10 minute “try it out” thing.
The only quibble I have is that if you do opt for a mattress cover, the coating that keeps stains, etc. from soaking through reflects heat and sort of negates the use of natural fibers. Although, at the price points suggested, I agree you won’t find much else.
I’ll also agree that the salespeople aren’t absolutely horrible, but they do like to baffle with bulls**t. I heard coil counts more than once. However, the 3 salespeople we spoke with tried hard to help us find a good fit. Ask them about the gauge of the coils (lower number is stiffer, typically).
Oh, and seriously opt for the mattress cover. It wasn’t a week after we had it that one of our dogs threw up on the mattress and soaked all the way through to the cover. Saved us the 60 day return policy.
July 17th, 2009 at 6:45 am
This is great information! I’m looking to replace the inexpensive bed I bought in a pinch for grad school, and these points will be really helpful for shopping!
July 17th, 2009 at 6:48 am
I’d like to know what Justin has to say about Verlo mattresses which are sold in factory-direct stores. We’ve bought mattresses from Verlo for both our bedroom and our guest room.
July 17th, 2009 at 6:55 am
As both the article and other comments said, definitely get the protective mattress cover. It’s invaluable. (Or well, its value equals the cost of replacing the mattress, at least!) As Sean said, the negating of the natural fiber effect is an unfortunate side-effect, but it is a good trade-off, I think. And you may now be able to find more natural covers these days.
I also found that at some of the smaller stores, you can generally negotiate for free delivery and often a free metal bed frame so long as you’re paying cash. It might not work so well with the department stores, but our local Serta dealer and one of the other furniture stores (smaller chain) both offered that after a little negotiation. Since we were moving from a futon to a real bed in our first apartment, the frame and delivery were musts, and even with some additional shopping around during those 30-days, (looking for other furniture), our deal on the actual mattress price didn’t suffer for the free stuff.
July 17th, 2009 at 7:08 am
This article reads like it is - a sales pitch from a guy whose family has been in the mattress business for X years. Lie long enough and even the liars themselves start to believe it…
I’ve never paid more than half price for a mattress. Go to Sleepy’s or whatever mattress store you like, find a bed you like, then sit and wait out the grueling back-and-forth negotiation that has to take place and if the price doesn’t come down by 50% off the tag then go to the next closes Sleepy’s (or whatever) and tell them you want X bed for X dollars. I guarantee, as someone who has done this numerous times, that it will work. Mattress salesmen are typical losers who can’t get a real job and will do everything they can to make a sale. Sleepys is a classic joke but the rest are all the same.
And…if you pay more than $1500 for a mattress then you paid too much. And the mattress ‘protector’? Good luck getting the warranty work done regardless of whether you throw money away on a ‘protector’. Unless you’re pissing on your bed then what’s the point?
July 17th, 2009 at 7:14 am
I disagree with all your mattress advice. And I come from a family of bad backs, so we do need the best. Buy mismatched sets and you can get great mattressess and box springs for under $1,000 for a set. I’ve never paid over $800 for both (that IS queen size, I’ve never bought a king, granted). I disagree completely that you need to spend $2,000! Read Consumer Report’s analysis before you do that, please!
July 17th, 2009 at 7:14 am
Hey JD,
Don’t know what path you’re headed down here, but if you decide that a Tempurpedic is what you and Kris are looking for, then I would like to suggest you check out Angel Beds (www.angelbeds.com) before you buy. After falling in love with a Tempurpedic a few years ago but deciding it was outside my budget range, I did some sleuthing and took a risk ordering the comparable Angel Bed and couldn’t be happier. I do not notice any difference in the feel of the mattress and 2 years later it’s still looks and feels like it’s brand new.
Since then, I’ve sold a few friends on these beds and they’ve reported the same results. Also, a quick review of their website shows that they’re now offering free delivery and free return shipping for 90 days if you decide to return. That’s an improved policy from when I bought.
Again, don’t know if that’s the path you’re headed down, but feel free to email me if you have any questions.
July 17th, 2009 at 7:18 am
Thank you for all of the tips and information. I’m glad you spent two days on this subject. We have to get a new mattress and I know it’s going to turn into a major project!
July 17th, 2009 at 7:20 am
Mark is 100% on the mark: this is how I’ve gotten every mattress in my life:
“This article reads like it is - a sales pitch from a guy whose family has been in the mattress business for X years. Lie long enough and even the liars themselves start to believe it…
I’ve never paid more than half price for a mattress. Go to Sleepy’s or whatever mattress store you like, find a bed you like, then sit and wait out the grueling back-and-forth negotiation that has to take place and if the price doesn’t come down by 50% off the tag then go to the next closes Sleepy’s (or whatever) and tell them you want X bed for X dollars. I guarantee, as someone who has done this numerous times, that it will work.”
July 17th, 2009 at 7:20 am
As an insurance agent, I loved reading that a renters insurance policy claim funded his mattress purchase.
Thanks for the great tips!
July 17th, 2009 at 7:21 am
We recently bought two beds from a chain store (1 queen, 1 full for $1900 or so). However, when I mentioned this to a co-worker, he suggested I check on their website and it’d probably be less if I ordered it online. He had shopped in the store to find the one he wanted, but went to the chain store’s website to buy it for less! The same company! After checking his suggestion out, we canceled the in-store order. However, instead of just ordering them online, we did some shopping around and found a local company (here in NJ) that manufactures their own mattresses. (And they had coupons in the bulk coupon mailer we get.) We got similar beds, and replaced a third one, for a little more than we were spending on the two at the chain place. And we know people who have bought from them in the past and their reputation is wonderful. Whether you’re buying from a chain store, online, or a local manufacturer, it’s best to shop around and get your best deal first.
July 17th, 2009 at 7:24 am
You forgot to mention the Sleep Number bed! It’s the best purchase my husband and I ever made. He likes really soft mattresses, but I have fibromyalgia and need a really firm one (I like sleeping on the floor, if that gives you a clue) or my back hurts too bad to sleep. The Sleep Number bed seemed to be the only way we could both be comfortable. I didn’t think I would like it, because I’ve slept on air beds on the floor at my in-laws’ house, but this feels totally different. We paid about $1200 for the lower-end queen size mattress and “foundation” (basically the box spring that supports the mattress). It does come with a 20-year warranty, but like the Tempurpedic, it’s supposed to last longer than a traditional mattress. We have pets with claws, too, and I was nervous that they might puncture the bed. After having it for 5 years now, I can say there is no way that will happen. It’s really well built, and we LOVE it!
July 17th, 2009 at 7:24 am
How timely! I am shopping for a mattress right now, though I am looking at the organic and all natural brands.
I think I am going with the Royal-pedic inner coil one, but the natural latex options are interesting too.
Your guest’s notes on the price range is very comforting. the Royal-pedic I am looking at is right in the middle of his price range. I love it when I don’t have to pay extra for environmentally sustainable and healthier options!!
July 17th, 2009 at 7:30 am
As another person who’s family was in the mattress business, I have to say you missed the money saving boat on this one. The last time I bought a Queen size bed, it cost me $400. Many mattress companies have outlet stores. For example, in Sacramento, Sleep Train has Boxcar Bedding. DON’T go to one of those scary liquidator stores but instead, visit a genuine overstock and mismatch for an independent seller.
Tip 1: You do not need to have the matching mattress and boxspring. In some cases, you are better off creating a custom mix and match that suits your needs. (Some people who really like a low profile mattress actually opt for a plywood base, no boxspring.)
Tip 2: Genuine mattress outlets leave more room for negotiation. The mattress I purchased was a special order that no one had ever picked up. Since it wasn’t on the regular market, no one was coming looking for it and I got a really good deal.
Unfortunately, it sounds like your friend repeated the sales information that every floor person and manager has ingrained for years. (Trust me, I’ve heard it before). While $15 a month may not seem like much, those purchases do add up, and as you can see from other commenters, can easily be twice what you should really be paying.
July 17th, 2009 at 7:42 am
I have to add one more brand to your list: Select Comfort (Sleep number bed). We’d had our bed for about 7 years and we love it. My husband likes a firm bed and I like a soft bed. We can each set our side however we want it. If I’d had a tough day, I can change the firmness of the bed with a click of a button. My husband had back trouble before we got the new bed and his back has been much better since we got it. I’d never go back to a traditional bed. They also cost about the same as a traditional bed.
July 17th, 2009 at 7:43 am
All of it sounds like solid advice (espeically about buying a low-profile box spring)… except for the pricing. When I got my first apartment after graduating college I slept on an inflatible matress (how’s that for frugal?!). After about 6 months I had some money saved up and bought a pillow top queen size matress, box spring and matress pad for under $400. Lucky too, because anything more expensive than that I wouldn’t have been able to afford. I bought a matress off the floor, which I’m sure made a difference. And I lived in a college town, which may have been a factor as well.
And I definitely disagree that the only reason to get a matress pad is for the warranty and stains. If ever the dog pees on the bed (like mine did) or morning coffee gets spilled, the mattress pad will more than pay for itself for saving the matress.
It seems like from my experience, and several other replies, that getting a quality matress under $1000 is definitely possible. Keep your eyes peeled for a good deal JD!
July 17th, 2009 at 7:44 am
I would suggest exploring the Sleep Number bed option. They are high priced, but if you never have to replace it, quality comes cheaper. While I can sleep on most anything, after I married my wife, we went through bed after bed, replacing first my waterbed, then a variety of mattresses (always the high quality ones mentioned in this article, such as, and including the Sealy Posturpedic). My wife could never find a comfortable one, and we would end up replacing it with another. Then we went to the Sleep Number, and we are both happy. As they are air chambers, there are no springs or fabric to break down over the years, so I see no reason they won’t last forever. We got the next most expensive, excluding the top of the line with the 9″ foam topper (if you are sleeping on air, why would you need 9″ of foam?), and opted for split bed with controls allowing each side to sit up or recline independently, as we both like to read before bedtime. While YMMV, I do believe, in my case at least, that this is the best bed I could have bought, and over the years, will be the cheapest, based on my history of replacing mattress/box springs sets.
July 17th, 2009 at 7:46 am
Sounds about right!
July 17th, 2009 at 7:48 am
There are some great tips in this article–the list of brands that he recommends, the idea of the 30-day trial period, and the admonition (that I wish I’d heeded) that if you don’t like it in the store, you won’t like it more at home.
However, I find myself reluctant to accept any advice that says I should spend $2-$4,000 on a mattress. That’s $400 per year! (the mattress I own now cost that much) Who can afford that, for one thing? And for another, I have heard way too many people like Beth and Mark above say that mattresses are grossly overpriced and there are ways to get them for less.
A detailed post on how to buy a great mattress close to cost would be truly valuable.
July 17th, 2009 at 7:49 am
Good Tips!
One thing you will not find at your local mattress store is a wide selection of Air Mattresses. In fact no retail store carries more than a couple of them. The internet is the only place that offers all of the different types and brands available.
If you are looking for an Air Mattress - check out http://www.bestairmattressreview.com to see all of the available options and reviews of the top mattresses.
You might not want to sleep on an Air Mattress every night, but they sure are useful for when you have guests in town.
July 17th, 2009 at 7:51 am
I would also suggest asking for a split box spring. It comes in two halves and works just as well as a regular box spring. When it comes time to move, you don’t have to struggle getting around corners or through stairwells because each half fits through standard doorways. I got mine for the same price as a regular box spring just by asking the salesman, even though they were listed at $99 more.
July 17th, 2009 at 7:55 am
For me the problem was not finding a bed that was comfortable, but one that would last more than 3-5 years without developing sags in the middle. I did a lot of research online, and it seemed that overall people really liked the Tempurpedic beds more than any others, and they tended to last longer too. I ended up getting a NovaForm memory foam mattress from Costco for about $500 and so far are happy.
I would say, always research online before you buy…or even try!
July 17th, 2009 at 7:57 am
I wouldn’t rule out Sam’s. You can’t try them out at the store, but when I bought mine, they said that I could return it any time in the first year if I was not happy with it.
July 17th, 2009 at 7:59 am
I could swear that about a year ago, you had a post about buying mattresses from a guest-poster. I remember it saying how it is hard to compare prices because one company gives the same mattress different names depending on what store it will be sold in.
However, I can’t find the post here anymore. Does this ring a bell or did I actually read it somewhere else?
July 17th, 2009 at 8:05 am
if a king should be about $300 more than a queen than your price range seems to high to me. i got a queen size posturpedic set (mattress and box spring) on sale at macys for $500 a few years back. i don’t think prices went up that much in that time.
July 17th, 2009 at 8:07 am
Not sure if this will be helpful, but some other bloggers just bought a new mattress that they heavily researched and decided to go with an environmentally friendly version.
Here’s the link:
http://www.younghouselove.com/2009/06/time-for-a-new-bed/
Not cheap from a bottom-line cost perspective, but I think we need to start factoring in the implicit social and economic costs of our purchasing choices more often.
July 17th, 2009 at 8:13 am
I had a bed frame break on me. (I mean, not literally _ON_ me — I was on the bed at the time.) My (now-ex) wife and daughter jumped onto the bed while I was on it it too.
I think that was the point where we decided it was time to lose weight.
July 17th, 2009 at 8:35 am
We just purchased Simmons Black Beauty Rest - king size for $3K.. A bit expensive, but it’s been such an improvement over our old, $500 queen size one..
I figure if I can pay $10-50K for a car that will last 5-10 years and is used for less than an hour/day (if you average it out), I can spend $3K on a mattress that will last 10 years and will be used 8 hrs a day..
July 17th, 2009 at 8:39 am
A good steel bed frame is pretty sturdy–the one I have previously belonged to my parents. The cheaper wooden ones are definitely breakable with, um, vigorous use.
July 17th, 2009 at 8:51 am
Can’t help but agree with Mark & Beth — the prices he is quoting seem waaay over what is necessary. We just bought an amazing mattress for $700.
I was looking forward to this post — REALLY hoping this guy would address some of the points brought up in the mattress scam website: http://www.mattressscam.com. Primarily the fact that these companies have different names for their different “models” depending on the store you go to — so you can NEVER compare prices.
Check out the mattressscam site — it has much deeper insights from an informed consumer’s perspective.
July 17th, 2009 at 8:53 am
Folks, the high prices in this post are a legacy of its origins. This was an email from Justin to Garrison that addressed Garrison’s needs and budget. I tried to strip the personal stuff (location, budget, etc) but wasn’t as thorough as I could have been.
July 17th, 2009 at 9:00 am
Tyler@FrugallyGreen has the right idea. Interestingly, the Angel Bed “Celeb” model looks identical to the one at Healthy Foundations (healthyfoundations.com — where I ended up ordering after testing a Tempur-pedic and liking it.) The Healthy Foundations one is a bit cheaper and also comes with a 1-year warranty.
I cannot under any circumstances recommend that anyone buy a Tempurpedic after sleeping in the Healthy Foundations bed for 2 weeks now. My friend bought 2 memory foam mattresses from Costco and feels the same way. When you buy Tempurpedic, you are paying for their commercial airtime, not for some perceived quality that other brands don’t have.
Of course, I’m sure Healthy Foundations and Angel Beds both have a great markup, but at least it’s $2K instead of the $5K+++ that Tempurpedic wants!
FYI, my Healthy Foundations bed was made by Jeffco Fibres here in the US. You may be able to buy direct if you really want substantial savings on a memory foam or latex mattress. They’re at jeffcofibres.com.
I’m still a huge fan of buying mattresses online. Plus, sales tax is 0. Of course, in Oregon, you don’t have to worry about that…but here in CA, where sales tax is 9.25% (!!!) it’s a huge concern.
-Erica
July 17th, 2009 at 9:06 am
I’m in the market for a mattress. I got to this Slate link from J.D.’s last article on mattresses:
http://www.slate.com/id/93956/
The upshot is brands do not matter and contrary to conventional wisdom you do not get what you pay for. A mattress is almost a commodity. You’re paying for marketing. Yes there are some really poorly made mattresses out there but they are the outliers - marketing fluff is the norm. Obfuscation is the only technique they’ve got to increase their margins.
The human body (especially the brain) is the opposite. There a million variables on what it takes to get a good nights sleep - with good being the key word. Everyone is different. Tell me exactly why the box spring is important. Tell me why you would pay for a mattress pad over just using cheap egg crate. Explain to me why we sleep four feet instead of one foot off the ground. Heck, after reading all the mattress articles I’m not even sure what the words “firm” and “soft” mean anymore.
I just want to get a good night’s sleep. I’m feeling the best tactic is to test many mattresses - even spend a night in a hotel. Then find out the best way to describe the model (not the brand - Sealy Executive Plush is gibberish). Last shop around till you find the best deal on your chosen model. Same technique as buying everything else really.
July 17th, 2009 at 9:07 am
Hey JD,
We recently bought a new mattress in Portland. I can give a high recommendation to the BedMart located in the Pearl. We tried a bunch of different stores in southeast Portland and either were not finding what we wanted or dealing with really aggressive sales people. We ended up buying a Tempur-Pedic Classic from the aforementioned BedMart. The woman who helped us (sorry, don’t remember her name) is one of the owners. She was super knowledgeable, but did not hound us. She gave us some advice, showed us some mattresses we might like, and left us alone to try the mattresses out and discuss them. WRT the Tempur-Pedic I can also make a favorable recommendation. My wife wanted a soft mattress, I wanted a firm mattress. The Tempur-Pedic is totally amazing- we are both very happy. Good luck on your own mattress hunt.
July 17th, 2009 at 9:16 am
I recently bought a bed in my new apartment and went to several stores. I recommend checking out several places and negotiating for the best price. It can only benefit you. Lie on as many as possible. It is difficult to judge a few minutes vs a nights sleep but you can get a general idea.
July 17th, 2009 at 9:17 am
I’m definitely saving this and the other article, but I wish it had been published two weeks ago. My hubby and I just bought a mattress and box springs for our spare bedroom, and so far it seems to be fine. We will be looking to replace our queen size waterbed with a new mattress and box spring set soon and this info will be invaluable.
My hubby is a much better negotiator than I am (I take him with me for car purchases as a matter of course), so I’m fairly certain he got a good deal on the mattress/box springs. Previously, I had been scouring the Internet for info about buying a mattress and I was convinced that it was ten times worse than buying a car. I was afraid that we’d get ripped off big time, but it seemed to work out OK. We got it from a local outlet-type place here in western PA called Original Mattress Factory, and as I mentioned, it seems to be a fine, general purpose mattress. In the end, I was pleasantly surprised at the way the entire transaction turned out.
July 17th, 2009 at 9:44 am
If you’re dying for a Temperpedic mattress, but don’t want to shell out an insane amount of money, you can get comparable memory foam matresses at Costco or Overstock.com for much less. I purchased my first memory foam from Costco, (Novaform brand) and my second from Overstock (can’t recall the house-brand, there), and both were terrific. They’re as good as Tempurpedic, not nearly as expensive, and I’ve never slept better in my life.
July 17th, 2009 at 9:44 am
Lol, re frames breaking I remember when mine broke. My very overweight (especially at that time) grandmother sort of threw herself down on the bed and the nearest corner broke. It’s much funnier now than it was as the time, as this was my bed.
I don’t think a more expensive frame would have necessarily helped with that, and we replaced it with another cheap enough frame that did just fine (after she’d left).
We knew some of these when we bought the mattress I have now and I think we made a good buy. We used a mattress liquidator, so they only had last year’s models but my parents had used them before and the salespeople were quite attentive and helpful.
July 17th, 2009 at 9:49 am
Learned several years ago while shopping for a mattress that different stores will have the exact same mattress as another store, but with a different name on it (same brand). Makes it hard to do price comparisons this way, the way the stores like it. We found stores would price match if we found the same brand mattress with the same coil count (indicating the same exact mattress). I hate shopping for mattresses as much as shopping for cars.
July 17th, 2009 at 9:57 am
My Sam Club does let you try out the mattresses. They have one of each model on a sort of pull-out that slides out from under the shelves. My wife and I got a queen-sized Sealy for $600 just about a year ago and we’re very happy with it.
July 17th, 2009 at 10:06 am
My wife and I bought a new bed when we moved. Having just arrived and not knowing where anything was, we went to a couple of mattress stores in an area containing a lot of furniture stores. The first one didn’t have anything we liked, or anything in our price range. In the second store, we had a creepy salesman who followed us around. We couldn’t get far enough away from him to discuss the beds we tried, and ended up sneaking out of the store when he went to the back to check on something.
In the end, we did what Wayne’s friend did and found a bed we liked in a chain store and ordered from their online store for less. The bonus for us was that there weren’t any salesmen in the department. After our encounter with Mr. Creepy (who wouldn’t shut up about coil counts), we just wanted a room full of beds to ourselves.
July 17th, 2009 at 10:31 am
I agree with Mark and Beth, who said it sounded like a sales pitch. Especially the thing about “beds are expensive (2-4K)”, and what’s the worst that would happen, you pay a little more for a nicer bed? Well what if you don’t need a nicer bed and you just paid $300 more than you needed to?
I also thought it was interesting where he said regardless of warranties, beds do not last longer than 10 years. For the longest time one of the selling points of more expensive beds is that they were built better and lasted longer. If it’s not coil count, not natural verus unnatural fibers, not longevity, he still doesn’t explain why a 2K bed is worth getting over a 500-700 bed, which is what I want to know.
I DO agree about having a mattress protector. We have “protect a bed” on all of our beds, totally worth the cost!
July 17th, 2009 at 10:31 am
10 years for a mattress? The one my wife and I have is currently 20 years old and still great. I also can’t imagine spending more than $1000 for a mattress - that’s ridiculous.
July 17th, 2009 at 10:33 am
This is great info!
July 17th, 2009 at 10:37 am
Your mattress store should handle pickup of the old mattress - but if it’s in the same truck DON’T DO IT. That means all the old mattresses are being hauled away in the same trucks the new mattresses are in, and that means BEDBUGS. If you live where I do (NYC) they are everywhere and incredibly difficult to get rid of. You don’t want to be inviting them in because some guy’s contaminated mattress is up against your new one in the truck. Confirm before delivery that the store won’t have your mattress in a truck with old ones.
July 17th, 2009 at 11:00 am
I always buy my mattresses from a place that sells mismatches. You can get a top quality mattress where the fabric print is different on both sides for a deep discount - and it’s new! Who actually cares about the print on the mattress fabric anyways.
Don’t pay retail for a mattress.
July 17th, 2009 at 11:04 am
My family is in the furniture business and the only mattress brand I have ever had is Jamison. I personally think they make the best mattresses. And forget the metal bed frame, which will break. Splurge on a good quality wood bed, it’s worth every penny and will last forever.
July 17th, 2009 at 11:16 am
We purchased a Stearns & Foster queen bed a few years ago. I cannot say enough good things about it! My back has been better (low back issues) and I’d do it all over again. I agree that cost isn’t everything, but you sometimes pay for what you get. Try it out and I bet you’ll love it. We got a midrange version (not the extra pillowy type) and I think they were a bit mismatched as well, so the cost was lower. I didn’t realize how badly I was sleeping before we got the new bed. Good luck!
July 17th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
I didn’t have a lot to go on when I bought my mattress, but I got lucky. Coming right out of college and an 8 year stint sleeping on the same futon, I knew I wanted something comfortable, king size, and not cheap. I got a king size Simmons Beautyrest for $1500 after taxes with a new frame. I’ve yet to buy a mattress protector, but I’m seriously considering it now. I absolutely love my bed, though I think I might prefer them just a bit firmer. The model I have has a five inch thick pillow top with memory foam. Its super-soft!
July 17th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
I agree with #52 Jonathan - it’s ridiculous to me too, and I wonder if the bedding industry has convinced consumers they need more, just as the housing industry convinced consumers they need granite countertops and stainless steel appliances.
July 17th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
This advice is lacking. There are many good brands to consider beyond the good ones mentioned. Therapedic, Kingsdown, Natura come to mind. Also Select Comfort, mentioned in the posts with its Sleep Number airbed. There are other non-coil types that should be considered, too, especially for people suffering from back pain. Memory foam is the generic for Tempur-Pedic, some good, some not-so-good. Check the actual thickness of the memory foam layer (vs. the base foam). Latex beds are great, natural back supporters, though they can be expensive (probably will be my next mattress). Local furniture stores often offer Tempur-Pedic and other lower-priced memory foam options that you can compare.
July 17th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
To anyone shopping for a mattress, I recommend that you go to consumerreports.org and in their search box type: 10 mattress myths and then click on “mattresses, mattress myths” and it’ll bring up the 10 myths, many of which have been discussed here.
July 17th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
RE comments about price negotiation: I said that most of the larger chains don’t negotiate prices, but I guess that could be true only of the geographic area I was located in. The mattress retail industry varies geographically, so some (or most) parts of the country may still predominantly use negotiation. For the company I worked for, we were simply not allowed to negotiate mattress prices, period. And our main competitors in that area had the same policy. It could be different elsewhere. I wish every store would go to this policy because it certainly takes a lot of the stress out of the process.
RE price in general: You can certainly get a quality bed for less than I recommended to my friend. My recommendation was tailored to his circumstances. The most important thing is comfort. If you feel just as much comfort on a $500 bed as on a $1500 bed, then there is no reason to spend more. Everybody has their own preferences for comfort. But if you are somebody who likes the feel of the $1500 bed best, then I recommend that bed because you will get better sleep if it is more comfortable. My main point for my friend was that he is not automatically being ripped off if he spends $2000 on a bed.
RE comments about frames breaking: I consider myself corrected. Thanks for the info. In 2 years of selling mattresses and 8 years of part-time delivery of them, I never came across a frame that had broken, and none of my co-workers ever mentioned anything like that happening. I would constantly see people still using frames that were 20 years old or more. I should clarify that when I said “bed frame,” I was referring only to standard steel frames, and not a headboard/footboard/rails combination.
RE comments about mattress protectors: Yes, using a protector/pad will cancel out the benefit of natural fibers. But, I still recommend it for at least the sleep trial period so that the bed can be returned, if necessary. And I recommend it long-term for anyone who doesn’t have major temperature variations at night that could benefit from the natural fibers. And if you have allergies, it is great to have something you can take off the bed and wash.
RE Barb’s comment about Verlo: I haven’t heard of Verlo mattresses. Several mattress brands are regional or specialty/niche, so information could be difficult to find. Also, some companies sell the exact same bed in different locations but give it different names.
RE comments about Sleep Number: I intentionally didn’t mention them because I had an idea of what my friend was looking for, and Sleep Number would not have been a good fit. My experience with Sleep Number beds was that people either love them or hate them and there isn’t much of a middle ground. We had an inordinate number of problems with them where I worked, but some people absolutely loved them.
RE comments about outlet stores: I agree, outlet stores can be a great place to find a deal on a bed. But some of them can also be shady operations. I was not familiar with the outlet store’s in my friend’s area, and that is why I did not recommend he go to one. If you go to an outlet store, keep in mind that a lot of them don’t offer the trial period, and sometimes they sell beds that other people tried and returned from the non-outlet stores.
RE comments about cross-shopping prices: It is true that mattresses are given different names at different stores locally and across different regions. I don’t have any tips to get around that. I guess you just have to figure out what is in each bed and compare them to see if it is the same bed at each location.
RE durability: Based on my own experiences, I think 10 years is an appropriate estimate of how long I recommend sleeping on a bed. But obviously people more tolerable of bed softening will get more (body weight will obviously also have an effect). As of a couple years ago, manufacturers of innerspring mattresses were telling salespeople that the beds are designed to last 12 years. And most customers I had seemed to be in the 12-15 year range, and were only coming in after their bed had become unbearable. Thus, I think a 10-12 year estimate for the bed staying comfortable is appropriate for most people. Some people will get more, and some less.
July 17th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
We had a double bed — which fit our 1960s bedroom much better than our current queen — but it wasn’t quite big enough not to feel that someone was taking up too much room. On the other hand, when we go to hotels, the king size beds feel too big — we don’t need that much room…. and I’m glad, because the queen size sheets don’t cost as much as the king sized…
also, I too wonder about the 10year life of a mattress–shouldn’t that vary according to, say weight of users, and other considerations? we have a sweedish bed frame that has a wooden slats, not a box spring under the mattress, I would think that would make a difference, too…
July 17th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Forgot to add to my earlier comments above — when you read the article from Consumer Reports listing the 10 Mattress Myths, to the right of Myth No. 2 is a Video that you can click on. Be sure to see the video as it gives consumers excellent buying advice on mattreses.
July 17th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
Mattresses, like window shades, which are regularly priced at 70% off “list,” are typically sold at a “sale” price. I would take “list” price with a grain of salt: the “sale” price is the regular price.
Also, I’d be interested if anyone ever mae use of a mattress guarantee. What was the outcome?
July 17th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Best bed I’ve ever owned is the memory foam mattress I got from Overstock for about $350 ($2.95 S&H). I sleep like a little baby on it, and had enough cash left over for a spiffy new duvet cover and shams!
July 17th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
I read all the info on consumer reports site (back when I paid for it) then religioust checked Craigs list for weeks until I saw what I wanted. We bought a Sealy Posturpedic king size pillow top extra firm for $480. It had been purchased and used for display in a Street of Dreams home. Now it fuels MY dreams. No guarantee, but I don’t care about that anyway. We’ve had it a year and its awesome.
July 17th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Very interesting how mattress has great value due to the long duration that we spend in it. I always opt for the cheapest mattress, but I guess just one person does not need a great bed. Great perspectives, though, on what to look for.
July 17th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Thank you, thank you, thank you! Great and much needed information here. Now to begin saving . . .
July 17th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
For what it is worth, Radisson Hotels Deluxe rooms are outfitted with SLEEP NUMBER beds. I have stayed in three such rooms. In two of the rooms, the bed did not ‘hold’ its sleep number..i.e. when set at 85, 6 hours later it had slipped…one bed down to 5! In the other room, I did not like the 85 rating, even though I always like a firm mattress. The hotel manager said this is common, and had doubts about the wisdom of outfitting the hotel with these SLEEP NUMBER beds.
July 17th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
If you live on the east coast, BJ’s Wholesale Club will accept returns on mattresses within 30 days. They seem to be decent mattresses for the money, but everyone has their preference.
July 17th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
Not to come off as a frugality Nazi, but when my daughter moved in, I gave her my bed, bought two exercise mats, and started sleeping on the floor. I’ll never go back.
July 17th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
If you have them in your area, check out Denver Mattress (they’re all over the country). Great prices and quality - they make their own - not rebrands. No haggle upfront pricing too (doesn’t hurt to try, though). Way better than the two Posturpedics I had before. If I recall correctly, about $900 got me a queen mattress with pillowtop and individually wrapped coils, a low profile box spring, bed frame, mattress pad, pillows, cleaning kit, and delivery. I think the most expensive conventional mattress they sell retails for around $1000, and they have their own versions of the Tempurpedic and SleepNumber too.
July 18th, 2009 at 3:29 am
we are just about to buy a king size mattress, so this post was very interesting to me!
July 18th, 2009 at 4:17 am
I would also add that you can haggle for the bedframe as well. I got it thrown in for free, including the “upgrade” to the higher level frame, and didn’t bring it up until after the price was settled.
July 18th, 2009 at 6:46 am
I have to disagree with his brand recommendations. We have had horrible experience with Sealy, especially when trying to enforce the warranty. We replaced it after three years with a Serta, which had served us well previously, and has done so again. I’d turn and run from a Sealy mattress.
July 18th, 2009 at 10:04 am
I’ve had a Select Comfort (Sleep Number) bed for six years and love it (original cost, $500). Renters, especially, should consider it for ease in moving.
As many have commented, beds are a very individual thing, but value shoppers should certainly consider this brand. I did a thorough review of my model on Epinions.com http://www.epinions.com/content_439613886084 if you’re interested and by comparison, you can read some of the more negative reviews on that site as well.
As a general comment on mattress selection, “pillow-tops” add a huge amount to the cost of the mattress and are likely to break down or wear out or compress or stain or mold long before the rest of the mattress. Save your money and buy a memory-foam topper instead, which you can inexpensively replace when it breaks down in a few years.
July 19th, 2009 at 10:45 am
In college I would buy my mattress from a hotel near campus.
July 19th, 2009 at 11:54 am
chalk me up as tempurpedic fan, and i was very skeptical. the only problem i have with tempurpedic is that i sleep so well, i can’t sleep my 12 hours anymore. seriously, i feel too rested, which pisses me off, because i really like sleeping.
July 19th, 2009 at 7:45 pm
Quick anecdote.
We bought not one, but two mattresses for the price we had budgeted, with platform-style frames that have plenty of storage underneath, no boxsprings. We originally budgeted $900, and got such a great deal, we bought two.
I had read the Slate article that basically states that all mattresses are rip offs, essentially the same thing with more marketing buzzwords. We tried a local furniture warehouse place, and their best price was $600. We left to see if any other stores nearby had a good deal. The next store we went to had a very similar mattress, regular price over $750, but was on sale for $325. Our daughter got an upgrade (and we got a guest bed) as well, since the deal was so good.
I think it was more comfortable in the store than the one we had looked at that cost more. After sleeping on it for almost two months, I love it. I wake up refreshed rather than sore. I have some pretty serious back issues due to a motorcycle accident 10 years ago, so I’m not the average buyer, either.
July 20th, 2009 at 6:40 am
Great tips.
We expect to be in the market for a new set in the Spring . . .
Thanks for sharing.
July 20th, 2009 at 10:27 am
READ THIS POST!!!!!!
I didn’t read ALL the other posts so forgive me if I’m repeating someone else….
My wife and I spent $3200 for a SLEEP NUMBER BED, king size, middle-of-the-road(in price) model,
and have never slept better. It’s actually an air mattress, so it doesn’t wear out. We’ve had no problems with it. I never get a comparable nights sleep on ANY regular bed.
ITS THE BEST PURCHASE WE’VE EVER MADE IN OUR LIVES.
BTW, I do not work for SLEEP NUMBER.
July 20th, 2009 at 11:10 am
My husband and I suffered from serious sticker shock when we went shopping last year for a mattress to replace our aging kingsize.
We ended up taking a chance on the Overstock.com memory foam mattress for about $700 (it’s only $650 right now, and couldn’t be happier.
July 20th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Thanks for all the info, but I have to be honest that I did not have to use any of this. I bought a mattress this past weekend from a Mattress Warehouse. Prices were clearly listed and definitely reasonable, and actually all on sale, no hassle. The salesman let us look around, lay down, and just ask him the questions. When we decide on a bed, Simmons BeautySleep plush top, he looked it up and it turned out that it was $150 off the list price. We left in less than 30 minutes with a queen size bed/box spring for $583, delivery included. We also live in Baltimore, so it wasn’t some rural area. Our budget was 800-1,000 and we def beat that. I was really nervous after reading all the comments here and the mattressscam.com site.
July 21st, 2009 at 12:17 am
I’m 28 years old, and have had 3 mattress sets since leaving home. They have all been used. Many people shy away from used, but you just have to be picky in what you get.
The frame I bought. I forget how much I paid, but it’s your basic metal snap together frame on wheels. I always recommend getting a good frame. Get one that expands to different sizes.
The first bed was around $100 from a classified ad. I ended up leaving it in a basement for 10 months and it got moldy, so I had to pitch it. The second bed came from a friend. The third bed was an upgrade (twin to queen — I ended up giving the twin to a friend). Many furniture stores that sell new beds will often get rid of their client’s old beds for free. The one near us would retain good-shape mattresses in the back of the store for a few weeks. They were given away on a first-come, first-serve basis. This way, they saved on disposal fees.
You want to inspect the bed for anything bad — pee stains, mold, insects, etc. Most people get rid of a bed because they got a new one from somewhere else — or they are moving and no longer need it. Very few people will try to sell a crummy bed. You can also check out the house that the bed is in. If something smells funny, just walk away, But by checking out a few furniture stores and classified ads, you can usually pick up a really good bed for free or extremely cheap.
July 21st, 2009 at 12:55 pm
Great post–I never thought the art of buying a mattress could be so interesting, but it gave me a lot to think about–especially since our current mattress is almost 10 years old…
July 22nd, 2009 at 9:16 am
I disagree regarding the 30-day trial, and i have a suggestion.
Choose a larger retailer mattress store that has a no returns policy, but then negotiate with the salesman to write in the comments that this is an exception, and that you have a thirty day trial.
Companies that have a 30-day trial delivery used beds. Especially department stores, who don’t normally have a clearance center for floor models and returns.
They can’t send those back to the vendor, except for Tempur-pedic, so they end up RE-BAGGING the beds.
Also, always insist on examining the mattress when it is IN the bag.
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Stay away from Select Comfort. The 20-year warranty is really only a 2 year full warranty, and an 18-year prorated warranty, and parts that shouldn’t fail in 3 years (pump, remotes) have a tendency to do so. Most people don’t think about needing to set aside money for maintenance of their mattress, but with Select Comfort you will need to do so.
Unless you and your spouse have drastically different ideas of comfort, you can likely find a regular mattress that will be a better match than deal with the “trench effect” of Select Comfort mattresses (the valley that develops between the air chambers).
More info on my issues are on my website:
http://punaro.com/index.php/2009/06/derek/select-comfort-customer-service-failure/
http://punaro.com/index.php/2009/06/derek/select-comfort-learns-the-real-power-of-twitter/
And there’s a great post at Consumerist’s site:
http://consumerist.com/5313471/dont-put-too-much-faith-in-select-comforts-20+year-warranty
July 24th, 2009 at 9:13 am
My husband and I love our Select Comfort Sleep Number bed!
1) we planned in advance and bought it with 18 months same as cash. We set aside a lump sum of cash in a CD to mature 1 month before the 18 months expired and put monthly “payments” into a savings account so we earned the interest ourselves. Paid the entire amount off with one month to spare!
2)The Sleep Number bed has a 60 day in home trial, so you know for sure you like the bed during the trial period.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
Select Comfort beds have a 30-night in home trial, not 60. And the customer is responsible for return shipping. (~$100) Initial shipping or delivery/setup fees are not refundable. (~$50-200).
July 24th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
I bought my mattress at Sears about 7 years ago. It was definitely a good deal (hundreds less than the competition, free box spring, free frame rails, free delivery, free take away). At the time they had a mattress section of that store where you could try out mattresses. They’ve since redone the store and that one no longer sells mattresses. There are a few others in my area that still sell mattresses, though.
You have to buy when they have a sale to make it worthwhile. You should probably visit other stores first, as the salespeople at Sears [at least in my area] tend to be less knowledgeable and the selection can be quite limited compared to other stores.
July 25th, 2009 at 7:38 am
Truly a great and timely article on mattresses. Since we are also in the market for new pillows, I was wondering if anyone had any ideas as to the best to buy or things to consider.
July 25th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
Here again is the mattress salesperson’s favorite line “you spend a third of your life in bed….”
That third of your life is the third of your life during which you are unconscious.
I know a lot of people blame their mattresses for back pain, etc. Mattresses today are far more “advanced” than mattresses of old. Perhaps physical deconditioning is a much larger factor than mattress subtypes.
With all due respect, I don’t agree that “you get what you pay for” in regards to mattresses. I think most mattresses are just fine for the average individual - if you want to fool yourself into thinking you have a luxury item, so be it.
July 28th, 2009 at 6:55 am
I work for a mattress company, not in sales however. 2 quick observations.
Most places do NOT have trials. And think about it, that’s nasty. Do you want a bed that some unknown has had for a month? It would be like permantly staying at a hotel. no thanks. They come in sealed plastic bags for a reason. Most places call this a “comfort guarantee”.
Also, to the people saying just buy cheap and you don’t get what you pay for… that is extremly incorrect. The differences are very substantial. Of course once I started working where I do, I bought something new, night and day doesnt even begin to explain it.
oh, btw, the rest of his advice from this article is excellent and spot on.
July 28th, 2009 at 7:16 am
Thanks for this article. I read about this article just one day before planning to buy a new KING size bed. I went to ‘The Bedroom Store’ and asked for Tempeurpedic mattress. I loved the ‘DeluxeBed’, but I am concerned about the mattress getting hot. I love to sleep cold. Then the sales man showed me one more brand called ECO. Supposedly this company designs bed for hospitals and have just got into the market. Sales person said this mattress is memory foam and more breatheable. I felt nice to sleep on it in the store and price was a bit less than Tempeurpedic. Can someone comment on these new environment friendly ECO beds ?
July 28th, 2009 at 10:35 am
>>Stearns & Foster are great brands. They aren’t innerspring though.
I’ve had a S&F innerspring for nearly 10 years now. (Yeah, time to start thinking about replacing it…)
After reading that, I don’t know how much else to believe from this guy.
July 28th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
My one question would be thoughts on the Sleep Number beds. My girlfriend is a back sleeper for 90% of the night, while I am side and stomach, short of putting two singles together, I don’t see many good options for that kind of thing other than a Sleep Number. I’ve tried them in the store, and it seems nice, but trying a mattress for 30 days is sort of a hassle in my opinion. Any comments on those beds?
July 28th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
I have been working in the mattress industry for almost 20 years and would like to address one of the more prevalent opinions that I have encountered in this thread. The idea that mattresses are usually “ripoffs”. I know that there are stores out there that frequently mark their product up so that they can later mark them down for sale prices. There are also stores that will consistently offer those same products at fixed prices. This is marketing. I can guarantee that you will not find a model that most stores price at $2000 for $400. The margins don’t work that way.
In the retail world it isn’t unusual to encounter products that are marked up 10 or 15 times what they cost to manufacture. Mattresses are very rarely marked up even 100%. In the retail furniture industry most operations cannot achieve even a 10% profit margin even in a great year.
I’m not saying that some stores have better deals than others. I am trying to address a common misconception that most people overpay for a mattress. If you visit even two stores and compare mattresses with due diligence it is unlikely that you will end up overpaying for a mattress which is, after all, a very personal preference.
August 2nd, 2009 at 9:29 am
It’s worth noting that some aspects of the matress business are definitely a racket. More specifically the exact same matress can be marketed under several different names, thereby allowing retailers to promise that they offer the lowest price on a particular mattress or they’ll pay the difference.
August 2nd, 2009 at 3:00 pm
I bought a mattress recently and can say with certainty that in the New England area, it appears that you can negotiate down significantly on price at Sleepy’s etc. Most were priced $1K-$3K and you could get them down to $600-$800. I did try to be a stickler on negotiations and I think I really hit the minimum around $600 though, because I threatened to leave and actually did leave and the salesperson did not relent at all.
I got a frame on Craigslist for $20 because they would not throw it in. I got a pillowtop mattress that is king size for $800, but I am unimpressed with it, still can’t believe how much it cost. I sleep no better on it than any other mattress I’ve had, actually worse because of the cover making me sweat like crazy. I bought my last king size mattress for $75 on Craigslist and I actually liked that one better. It looked a little sketchy since it was used, but I put the mattress cover over it and no problem. I ended up buying the fancy one because my husband refused to let me get another used mattress because it fueled his OCD concerns.