How Much Does Canceling Credit Cards Affect Your Credit Score?
Published on - February 24th, 2010 (Modified on - December 20th, 2012) (by Adam Baker) This article is by staff writer Adam Baker, whose own blog paid homage to the movie, Fight Club, with the post Tyler Durden’s Guide to Personal Finance.
While I generally check my free credit report every 4 months or so, the last time I checked my credit score was November 2008. At that time, it was right at 740. Earlier this week, I checked my credit score again. I was pleasantly surprised to find out it was 730+!
Why would I be pleasantly surprised that my credit score has dropped between 5-10 points over the last 16 months? Because that’s when we stopped playing the credit game.
In early November 2008, Courtney and I not only canceled our credit cards, but also paid off our only non-student installment loan. The following month, we decided to take it a step further and close our final remaining credit card.
For the last 15 months, we’ve lived free of credit cards, other revolving credit, and traditional installment loans. (We still have student loans). While this has had an overwhelming positive affect on our financial life, it was supposed to have a dramatically negative affect on our credit scores.
After all, the following graphic is from myFICO’s “What’s in your FICO Score?”:

According to the graph and the information on the site, we have several strikes against us:
- The length of our active accounts would obviously be affected. Several of our gas credit cards were 4-5 years old. Canceling them reset the length of our active revolving loans back to zero.
- The type of credit used would be less diverse. We didn’t have a mortgage and now didn’t have any active revolving credit, either. I’ve read that FICO likes to see an installment loan that isn’t a student loan (for example, an auto, jewelry, or personal loan). We’re now lacking that, as well.
- Our overall credit limits were all but eliminated. Previously, we had close to $15,000 in credit card limits. This was obviously reduced to $0 by closing the accounts.
To be fair, we did have several factors working for us:
- Canceling our credit cards didn’t increase our utilization rate (the percentage of our limits we actually use). When you don’t have a balance, the utilization rate will always be zero, whether your limits are $10k or $0.
- My payment history has no negative marks. It’s certainly possible that my punishment for canceling my accounts may have been augmented had my history shown several negative marks. A clean payment history may help counteract the downside of canceling the accounts.
- We have no dings from new forms of credit. In addition to closing our accounts, we also chose to place a credit report freeze on both of our reports. As a result, we’ve had very few (if any) checks on our credit and certainly no newly opened accounts.
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Could my credit score be even higher?
It’s very possible that even though my credit score hasn’t tanked, it could be much higher. Had I not canceled my credit cards, maybe my score would be 750+ or 760+! There’s no way to know for sure, but canceling my credit cards may have caused my score to stagnate.
Another possibility is that FICO’s algorithm may still need more time before it begins to punish my “negative” behavior. I find this theory less likely, as it’s been well over a year. Over time, maybe the score will slip more dramatically.
On that note, if we keep up our current pace, we’ll eventually cease to have a credit score at all! It can be argued whether this is good or bad, however you’ll be hard pressed to convince me that executing our current plan for another 5 years will put us in a bad position financially.
So what does this all mean for you?
It’s important not to draw any sweeping conclusions from a single example. I fully expected my credit score to drop more than a mere 5-10 points, based on the information I’ve been reading for the past two years. It would be irresponsible to assume canceling your own credit cards would yield a decrease or an increase in your score based on my results.
At the same time, my sample case study has caused me to reevaluate just how much we know about the algorithm used for calculating your credit score. After all, no one knows the exact formula. All we have are graphs and lists of potentials factors that may be taken into consideration.
The only universal lesson that can be extracted from this is to ensure that an estimated change in your credit score isn’t the primary influence on your major financial decisions.
Of course, you should have any and all information you can. I’m not suggesting we should all ignore the information that is available about the make-up of credit scores. You should absolutely consider it. Just be wary of letting it dictate any major financial decisions on its own.
A week ago, I considered myself fairly savvy on the topic of credit scores. Today, I’m not so sure anymore!
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I am glad to hear that your credit was not adversly effected by cancelling cards. I recently cancelled some cards that I was no longer using. One account had been opened since 1991. This was about a month ago. I am about to pull my report and I am curious what I will see as well.
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Quick question for Adam! I love reading your blog and your adventures overseas. But with all the traveling you guys do, how do you book plane tickets without a credit card?
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I am also a member of the “I cut up my credit cards” crew (4 years now). How do I book flights without a credit card? Simple, I use my debit card.
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My credit score remained above 800 after I closed my credit cards in 2007. I did eventually open a new credit card account because I “needed” it for business travel (now we also use it for personal travel too). Basically I was tired of fronting the money for my business travel and then waiting to be reimbursed by my company.
At present we don’t have any debt except mortgage debt and my credit score is still above 800.
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How much balance do you have on your mortgage?
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Don’t understand why the credit card company keeps raising my limit. I always pay it off every month. Are they trying to get me to use more credit? Is it better to allow it to raise or should I bring it back down?
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Becarefull when they do that, I was with American Express, through Costco , sitting with a 2.5k limit, I’ve always paid on time or paid it off. then they raise it to 5k, After taking a long time to pay it off, they reduce my limit to 4.5k, well my account was still like 4.8k so they hit me with a over the limit fee, every months till I was under the allow limit. (reason it took a long time to paid , it was the huge intrest rate) (example : I paid $200 per month, well the monthly charge was like $90 + $ 75 intrest, $165, but once next months hits the additional 75 ( totaling $240) will make my 200 = nothing
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I cancelled about 10 credit cards when I went debt-free abut three years ago. Out of curiosity I checked my credit score recently with the three bureaus and they averaged 780. I have a perfect payment history so maybe that helped keep the score up. Who knows, and who cares.
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I can spot another Dave Ramsey fan a mile away, Baker!
I’d be willing to bet that your credit score won’t be “adversely” affected until those closed accounts begin to age significantly, especially if you always paid on time when you had them. The only thing that’s going to be affected immediately, it appears, would be your length of credit history.
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That’s great to hear. The only thing I worry about is that in five or so years, we’re going to be looking for a mortgage and with the lack of a credit history, would that make problems?
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It blows my mind that they are allowed to keep the actual formula a secret.
When traveling, a credit card is very useful. When traveling abroad, one better take a couple of credit cards just in case.
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Just came across this page more or less randomly. Being from Germany, this is really a foreign/fascinating/scary topic to me.
The idea that not borrowing “enough” _de_creases the credit companies’ trust in you…
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Checking into a hotel or renting a car without a credit card is a hassle, at best. Debit cards can be used but they will block off access to huge chunks of funds every time you check in and those holds take forever to go away. If you don’t plan properly for it, you can get hit with overdraft penalties. There’s a reason you might be worse off financially this route.
If someone needs to do a credit check for an insurance quote or a job application and your credit score is deemed too low because you cancelled all your cards and have no debt, you’ll be worse off financially by paying more for insurance or not getting the job.
If you want to buy a house, and you go to get a mortgage and your score is below 760 you will be paying more in interest over the mortgage by a significant amount than if you had the best rates available to the 760+ crowd. So you’ll be much worse off financially.
Do I need to keep going? I don’t understand why anyone who has the self control to pay off their balances in full every month thinks credit cards or credit scores are such a problem. They’re free to use and help you out with a 30 day interest free float, on top of the ability to dispute charges you don’t agree with and the “holds” being imaginary at hotel and rental car check ins.
Seriously, not my favorite guest post, JD.
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What works best for you!
I love my credit card — lots of rewards. They are a tool — some people choose not to use this tool because it is kinda dangerous and you might take a finger off while using it…
If you know how to properly use the tool — it is a wonderful thing!
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Adam: Congratulations on paying off so much debt, and thanks for sharing the impact to your FICO. I was surprised to read your outcome as well, that’s good info to know.
One question: will you ever use credit again? What if you have a large purchase you want to make (car? house? furniture?) How will you handle it? And how about unexpected emergencies – how would you handle those? Curious to know if you’ve decided to go all cash, all the time.
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On ceasing to have a credit score – this means that your official “number” will be zero. (I know because this happened to me.)
If you need to actually use your credit score to do something like borrow money for a house, you’ll be unable to do so.
If you don’t plan on needing your credit score, then why are you bothering to check it?
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I’m inclinedto agree with Adam, number 8, I don’t think there will ever be a day where I cancel my card (I only have one). There’s far too many services that are just unrealistically accessible without one.
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I still do not get why people feel the need to cancel their cards instead of simply cutting them up.
Adam — what made you decide that it was better to cancel the accounts as opposed to cutting up the cards so they were not available to you?
In this scenario, the cards will be replaced when they expire allowing you to experience the lifestyle of no credit cards for several years without hurting your credit score.
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Informative article Adam!
I often wondered what would happen if I took the plunge and canceled my last credit card. I’d say if you need your score anytime soon (6-12 months) then don’t make any changes that would adversely affect your score. For example, if your planning to by a house and want the best score possible to negotiate the lowest rates possible, then I wouldn’t do any changes that would risk the score going down.
I’d be interested to see if your score takes another hit or starts to rebound as you pay everything else down in a timely fashion.
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where do you all check your score at? i am leary of checking my credit score… Since followers fo this site are concerned about their credit and money I figure i can trust where you all recommend to check the credit score. I havent checked mine in 3-4 years but would like to knwo where i am at. thanks!
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I recently had a similar situation, but have yet to see what transpires in terms of my actual credit score. My Chase credit card was cancelled due to a new card card being opened (New Best buy card, with $2000 on it, also my max for that card). Apperntly Chase did not like the fact that I was at my limit on my new card. Funny thing is, I could have put $2000 on my Chase card, and recieve 19% interest on it, or use the Best Buy card with 0% interest. I did not think about it at the time, it was a no-brainer. 0% is WAY better than 19%…BUT the fact that I was at my credit limit is what spooked Chase. Due to my Chase card being canceled, I instalntly paid it off, and now just have the Best Buy card.
It was a valuble lesson-Never reach your credit limit-that I learned the hard way. I posted a topic about it on my site… It was quite an annoying experience!!
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I don’t understand people’s fascination with credit scores. Are you planning on buying a house soon? No? Then don’t worry about it.
Is there any other use besides getting a mortgage? Small business loan, maybe?
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@David#15 – Some people also get car loans. I wager, actually, that most people get car loans, even if we here at GRS all pay cash for slightly used cars
So there’s another reason to be concerned with your credit score, because you’ll get lower rates on your car loans.
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I agree with Nate at #9. If you are responsible with your card and are able to pay off your bill in full each month then you can reap rewards just for spending money you normally would. Simply paying my everyday bills, groceries, gas etc has yielded me frequent flier miles, gift cards, and hotel stays. It’s a great tool if you know how to use it.
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@#8 Adam
While this post might seem pointless to you, not everyone is disciplined enough to handle credit cards responsibly. For those people who just finished paying off huge amounts of revolving debt and plan on canceling their cards, this information is very helpful.
Please be considerate and understand that not everyone is like you. For example, I don’t travel, so I virtually have no need for a credit card for hotels or car rentals. I already bought a house, so the credit score is pointless to me. I would rather cancel the cards than risk pulling myself back into debt.
It’s all about what’s best for your personal situation, and only you can make the best decision for yourself. This article was obviously not intended for you, so please don’t insult the post because it isn’t tailored to your likings.
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@David – Credit scores are used in many areas of your life. Having a good credit score can actually save you money on insurance.
Also, I have heard of employers looking at potential employees credit score.
I don’t think that’s right, but for many reasons, your credit score remains important.
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There was recently a post on this on the simple dollar. After seven years, his past history will dissappear and then his credit score will take a hit. I’m not saying that he should keep credit cards, but that not enough time has passed to know the real impact.
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Hey gang,
I’ll try to write a follow-up article about why we *did* cancel the cards even after getting to the point where we could easily control them.
It’s simply too big of a discussion for a follow up comment here.
A couple have asked *if* we plan on using credit again at all. The answer is actually no. We don’t plan on borrowing again (but aren’t so hardcore that plans couldn’t change eventually).
As for emergencies, if there were a true family need or medical need, we’d do whatever it takes to handle that. We’d easily go into debt or use credit for things of that nature. The specific emergency would dictate our priorities then.
Lastly, #8 Adam, can you explain your comments on hotels? Are you talking about a high-end chain or placing a reservation that you can cancel? I’ve bought my fair share of accommodations of all price ranges in several countries over the last 12 months. I’ve never once had and issue or a hold placed on my account (doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen of course).
As I pointed out in the article, my credit score hasn’t gone down much at all. I’m not sure what effect canceling credit cards really has. Like the hotel/debit card situation, I’m thinking it may be over-hyped.
Time will tell!
Thanks guys.
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Another related data point: At one time I had heard Suze Orman advocate not using credit cards at all for a few months before applying for a mortgage. So, I did that when I first applied for my first mortgage. As a result, the fact that I had absolutely no outstanding debt at that time was raised as a concern by the lender (although I was approved).
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From my experience working in public accounting for 20 years.
While many say that they pay their cards off every month, most people are not disciplined enough to do this. Most people run their personal financial affairs without a budget. Most business owners don’t budget.
Even people who for most of their lives are very good with their credit fall into the credit trap when pushed into a corner. A small business owner often uses credit cards to deal with cash flow problems. People who are unemployed and underemployed often use credit cards to pick up the slack. Folks who get divorced often used the credit cards they paid off every month just the same way they did when they were married, except now the household budget has been cut dramatically.
The real problem was the lack of planning, it’s just that credit cards can be a tool that makes it easier to avoid planning. Often, by the time the person realizes that they need some outside counsel, they have made quite a mess.
I have seen remarkably smart and responsible people fall into the credit card chasm because they got caught by life circumstances.
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Another thought, credit cards and thus the credit score as we know it, are fairly recent inventions. The idea of credit and creditworthyness are about as old as the concept of money. It’s possible to live on cash only. It may not always be the most convenient but I’d be surprised if you found someone who absolutely would not take cash over credit given the choice. Even in the case of buying a house. It’s possible to save that kind of cash.
I have a credit card and I am working to pay off my debt. I’m not saying that I’ll do what Baker is advocating but to say it’s impossible or irresponsible is being dangerously close-minded.
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We followed the Dave Ramsey plan and got rid of all of our credit cards as well. Our credit score did not fall much at all.
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Lots of misinformation floating around.
I fully agree with Baker. He has seen the light. It is amusing how those who have yet to justify their behavior. I have as well.
When you are finally on the outside looking in, you realize how foolish it is. The game is better not played at all.
First…Credit scores are not solely used to determine insurance rates. That would be your INSURANCE SCORE. And unlike your credit score which is used to determine your likelyhood of paying back a loan, and insurance score is used to determine “likely loss ratio relativity”
Meaning the higher your debt load, the higher your ratio. (more possibility for fraud) So less debtload equals a BETTER insurance score.
And employment. Seriously. You are a candidate for a position and you explain that you have no score because you have no debt and are financially stable and you are worried about not getting a job based on that. Who would want to work somewhere that didn’t understand that.
And Like Baker, I have rented hotels, condo’s, cars, etc and never had an issue. Maybe thats becaseu a debit card functions like a credit card if chosen…actually functions exactly like one, so the rental process is identical. Never had a hold. Never had an issue. Half the time they don;t even know it is a debit card…they run it as a credit.
So enough with the stupid urban legends and myths regarding FICO scores and credit card necessity.
There is a massive difference between no credit and bad credit. Having no credit will not prevent you from obtaining a car or home loan. You simply have to document your bill paying ability through different means…like utility bills, rent payments, etc. YOU DO NOT NEED A CREDIT SCORE TO GET A HOME LOAN. It is a myth that you do.
In fact, you do not need a credit score for anything really. If you truly are creditworthy, there are several ways to prove it without the use of a all knowing secret model from Texas
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I also placed a “do not sell” my information hold on both my credit report and my husband’s. Recently (within the last year) we really sat down and started reading those privacy notices we get every year from it seems like everyone! In them, it often states that they have the right to sell your information to “third party affiliates”. You can request that you “opt out” of that crap. Since we have made a solid attempt on opting out, and opting out with all 3 credit reports, we have DRAMATICALLY reduced the amount of junk mail we get. We often don’t get mail for half the days in a week. We also do not have unsolicited checks on our credit report at all since Equifax, Experian, and Trans Union are now not profiting off my information. It has had a profoundly positive effect. In addition, with not having those “pre-approval” offers in our mailbox, it makes it less likely someone is going to intercede one of those offers and open an account without our knowledge because they are not even our mailbox. I didn’t know about the credit freeze part, so thanks for that tidbit Adam!
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I have to agree with Nate (#11). A credit card is a tool.
It helps me keep up with our exact expenditures and we usually get $200-$300 cash back every year. That helps with Christmas and birthdays since I can buy discounted gift cards or simply have the cash transferred to my bank account. My Discover also doubles warranties up to a year on my electronic gadgets (like the $100 digital camera we bought a year ago).
If you have the self-control to only buy what you were going to buy anyway, credit cards are awesome. If you don’t have that control, then I’d put them aside, but I wouldn’t cancel all of them.
Why risk your credit score at all? Off the top of my head, I know credit scores are used for loans/mortgages, employers, auto and home insurance rates, landlords, utility companies, and cell phone plans.
Having an open line of credit that’s in good standing isn’t difficult or risky. Simply charge a meal or something once every 6 months and immediately pay it off. If you are simply addicted to spending, I understand closing the accounts. Otherwise, why bother?
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@Troy: Interesting…I had never considered a home purchase without an actual credit score, but I guess it can be done! Awesome. (By the way, I wonder if that’s changed in the current economy).
In any case, I see the old credit cards vs. no credit cards debate is back in full force.
To those who question Baker’s decision to close the accounts, I can say that I would do the same thing (if I wanted to get rid of cards entirely). Sometimes, putting things behind you is so much better than just putting them out of sight. It’s a psychological thing, I guess. And in Baker’s case, I think it was a declaration of victory…
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@Troy & Baker (Sorry, read this after I responded to Troy) – In 2004 I rarely used my credit card, but did use my debit for everything. I wasn’t as disciplined back then so was afraid to use my credit.
I went to Chicago for the weekend while living in Bermuda, and while I was away Hurricane Fabian struck, killing 4 people on the bridge that takes people from the airport to the main island in Bermuda. So I was stuck there. I had used my debit card to check in, but had thousands of dollars in my account and didn’t notice any issue.
I flew to NYC where they have many direct flights to Bermuda, waiting for the airport to reopen so I could fly home. Each morning, I would wake up, check hotels.com or priceline or whatever, reserve the cheapest room I could in NYC, and go check in at 3pm. Each time I checked in, I used my debit card.
About 5 days into this, airport still closed, I went and checked my bank statement online, and found my available funds was down to $200, even though my actual funds was over $4000. I called HSBC, my bank, and they said the chain hotels from Chicago to NYC had placed holds on the funds every time I checked in to a new hotel, and I would need to wait for them to clear before I could access my funds again.
I remember reading recently that rental car places are not accepting debit cards due to the problems they have caused with holds.
@Troy- thanks for your ALL CAPITAL ANNOUNCEMENTS. Shouting does not make your statements facts.
@Shane #22 – I appreciate that not everyone is disciplined enough to keep credit cards. That’s why in my post, I stated clearly that “I don’t understand why anyone ***who has the self control to pay off their balances in full every month*** thinks credit cards or credit scores are such a problem”. If you don’t have the self control to pay off your balances, then you need to stay the heck away from credit cards because they are disgustingly expensive.
But for anyone who does pay them off, why not use them? What are they costing you? For me, they cost nothing and the benefits are numerous.
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I don’t know why people who don’t use credit care what their credit scores are. The standard excuse is “oh, but I’m going to buy a house someday and I’ll need it then!” Really, if you can survive without credit for years, and manage to save 20% to put down, and you go looking to buy a house with that down payment and no debt and proof of adequate income, you’ll manage. If you live without debt you don’t need a credit score, any more than you’d need a batting average if you don’t play baseball.
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If you have a really bad credit score, you can be prevented from getting an entry-level job (like at the Dollar Store). That’s different from not having a credit score, though.
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I have a question – does “annual credit report” mean i can get one once per calendar year, or does it mean a full year has to go by between requests?
Thank you!
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Focussing on your credit score is a HUGE mistake, which this article only perpetuates. Consumers do not need to know their score, as they cannot use it for ANYTHING. Credit scores are used by lenders, not borrowers. Please stop giving attention to scoring, which is directly responsible for predatory sites (and annoying commercials).
What’s the alternative, you ask? Focus on credit BEHAVIOR. Pay your bills on time, live within your means, invest sensibly, and for most of us, work hard. If you’re paying attention to your credit score, you’re probably looking for shortcuts, which is anathema to GRS. The scoring rules may change every few years, but good behavior never will.
How would this article be different if it was about behavior, instead of a MEANINGLESS number? The author would have closed his credit accounts regardless because they weren’t right for him. He’d have an extra $30 in his pocket (assuming $15 each for two scores) and he’d be JUST AS HAPPY.
If you don’t get it by now, maybe you never will. Scores are for games. Your finances are not a game. Do the right thing regardless of the “score.” Stop keeping score.
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@Adam (not Baker): Just out of curiousity, would you change the way you use credit cards if the 30 day grace period was reduced or eliminated? I’ve heard speculation that this could be a possibility.
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@CB – If I had to pay ~17% interest from the day of purchase then I probably wouldn’t use the card as I do now, no. I wouldn’t want to pay that interest. If the reward was good, I’d pre-load my card for large purchases, say to get 2% cash back, though.
@tinyhands – agreed that paying bills on time, living within ones means, investing regularly and sensibly, etc. are all more important than a credit score. But to ignore it for the sake of ignoring it when the world at large uses the number to determine an increasingly diverse amount of things about you is pretty ridiculous in my opinion. Luckily, if one follows good credit behavior then a good credit score will follow.
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@tinyhands
How is credit score meaningless if you plan on having a mortgage some day? My score has meaning because it prevented me from refinancing my car with an institution that would be more convenient for me to deal with. It will also matter when I take out a mortgage and will affect my finances by thousands of dollars, hopefully in the right direction.
Credit behavior is important obviously, as you stated. But it’s impractical to ignore a number that plays such a large role in most people’s lives (except those without any debt or mortgage).
Also, why criticize Baker for wanting to know his score? What if he’s curious? Isn’t that worth $30? What about the fact that he’s a personal finance blogger and his readers are likely curious about the affect of canceling their credit cards on their FICO score? He’s clearly not modifying his life because of the score, otherwise he never would’ve canceled the cards in the first place out of fear of his score dropping.
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Not having a credit score is annoying.
Without a credit score, cell phone companies will not give you a normal contract. They require a large ($1000 or $500) deposit *and* put you on a handicapped plan that, for example, does not allow international roaming. I had to be a customer with T-mobile for a year and a half before I could get off the handicapped plan and turn on international roaming, which sucked, because I travel internationally a lot. (No, you cannot roam internationally on pay-as-you-go.)
Without a credit score, my utility company made me pay a $500 deposit. They paid it back (with $0.14 interest) after a year of being a customer.
Additionally, when you need to do something like this that requires a credit check and you don’t exist in the databases, the customer service people get all hushed and confused. I don’t know what shows up on their little screens, but it must be scary-looking.
It’s a thousand annoyances like these. I wish there were some way to say “look, I pay what bills I have and I have more money than I need, don’t make me jump through more idiotic hoops”. Apparently, however, the only way to do that is by having a credit card.
At some point I began to be reimbursed for much of my travel. This, combined with the above annoyances, are what pushed me to finally get a credit card. Hilariously, because of my lack of credit history, the limit on the card has been too low for the past three years to actually cover, say, several plane tickets, a week of hotel, and conference registration, so I end up fronting most of the money with a debit card instead.
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“It’s a thousand annoyances like these. I wish there were some way to say ‘look, I pay what bills I have and I have more money than I need, don’t make me jump through more idiotic hoops’.”
They have invented a way, it is called a credit report and credit score. Businesses want to know that you have a long and proven history of paying money you owe to other businesses. They want to know that you are trustworthy of extending credit to. If people want to hide this information from them then they need to pay the price. Literally.
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@doubters
How did knowing your credit score affect your behavior? Did you NOT apply for a car loan or mortgage because you knew your score ahead of time? No, you needed a car loan/mortgage, so you applied for one. If you knew that the outcome was going to be bad, would that mean that you no longer need a car loan/mortgage? Your knowledge of your score has no effect on the outcome, because the lending decision is not yours to make. Has anyone EVER been denied credit, walked back into the lender’s office, and successfully argued his case based on his prior knowledge of his score?
“But sir, you have to give me this loan because my score is 761.”
“Oh, I see. Nevermind my own process for determining risk. You know your score. Here’s your money.”
That, gentlemen, is ridiculous. Even if there was ONE true credit score, there is no law that says a lender must use that method for determining lending risk. Instead, lenders use a variety of means, including local/regional factors and their own lending portfolio’s tolerance to risk to determine whether or not to make a loan. And yet you claim to know the one number that’s going to make a difference and can somehow use this knowledge to your advantage?
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I know that higher scores get better rates, and low scores will get poorer rates. I know certain behaviors that will increase or decrease my score. I know that simply waiting a year for my score to get into the next higher bracket could save me thousands upon thousands of dollars on a home loan.
It sounds like you are arguing against people being informed and using that knowledge to their advantage, which is ludicrous.
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A credit score kept me from having to pay PMI (put down just over 18% on our $117,900 mortgage-first home). We were told that the lender was so impressed with our credit/payment history, the monthly fee was waived; Our realtor said he had never seen that before.
It also helped me get a 4.25%, 30-yr. mortgage.
Lots of other benefits as well. Still great to pay cash, though, whenever possible/sensible.
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To those worried about the inability to get a mortgage due to lack of credit score, it’s not the insurmountable obstacle that some would have you believe.
In 2000, I bought my first house at the age of 27. I had no credit score to speak of, as I never had gone into debt. Yet I managed to get a 30 year fixed mortgage at 6.5%, which was about as good as it got at the time, without having to jump through a ton of hoops.
I had to provide proof of employment, and a record of paying my bills on time from four sources, but other than that, it was a relatively painless process. While it was 10 years ago, I heard the exact same arguments – “oh, you’ll never be able to qualify for a mortgage without a credit score”, etc.
It’s just not true.
As for the concern raised about hotel/car rentals and debit cards – I always use my debit card, and have *never* had an amount held over the actual cost of the service. If someone is encountering these issues, perhaps they should take their business elsewhere.
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In 2000 the housing market was going up, up, up. You could be homeless, jobless, and a turtle and qualify for a home loan.
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This is a classic example of “treating the symptom” instead of the “root cause”.
If a person who is financially disciplined must cancel their credit cards to stay financially disciplined, they aren’t really financially disciplined. Instead of looking at why they can’t keep open credit accounts and not abuse them, the author has tried to remove the temptation.
Rather, if the author analyzed why they got into severe debt before (e.g., emotional spending, lack of budget discipline, etc.) and resolved that problem, they could simply keep the accounts open and 1) use them only in emergency or 2) use them responsibly.
In today’s world it makes sense to have at least one credit card for the reasons many have stated above. And ditto Megan’s comment (#24)…the real impact has probably not had time to hit the credit score yet.
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Regardless, at the time I heard – word-for-word – the same arguments that I’m reading in this thread. They weren’t true then, and I’ll bet dollars to doughnuts that with some research and shopping around, it’s not true now either.
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