Yesterday I shared some financial tips my father gave me when I was a sophomore in college. He didn’t stop there. After I graduated, he continued to offer advice. One of the things he told me was, “Pay yourself first.” To explain, he gave me a copy of George Clason’s 1926 classic, The Richest Man in Babylon. I didn’t read it.
In retrospect, I ought to have been a little less stubborn. It took years for me to understand what “pay yourself first” really meant, and by that time, I was already in financial trouble. If I’d read The Richest Man in Babylon when I was 21 — if I’d learned to pay myself first — I might not have had $35,000 in debt by the time I was 35.
To pay yourself first means simply this: Before you pay your bills, before you buy groceries, before you do anything else, set aside a portion of your income to save. The first bill you pay each month should be to yourself. This habit, developed early, can help a person build tremendous wealth. I wish I’d understood this when I graduated from college.
Why pay yourself first?
If you’re just getting started in the Real World, saving may seem impossible. You have rent, a car payment, groceries, and maybe student loans. Sure, you’d like to save, but there’s just no money left at the end of the month. And that’s the problem: most people save what’s left over — left over after bills and after discretionary spending.
But if you don’t develop the saving habit now, there are always going to be reasons to delay: you need dental work, you want to go to Mexico with your friends, you aren’t making enough to pay your bills. Here are three reasons to start saving now instead of waiting until next year (or the year after):
- When you pay yourself first, you’re mentally establishing saving as a priority. You’re telling yourself that you are more important than the electric company or the landlord. Building savings is a powerful motivator — it’s empowering.
- Paying yourself first encourages sound financial habits. Most people spend their money in the following order: bills, fun, saving. Unsurprisingly, there’s usually little left over to put in the bank. But if you bump saving to the front — saving, bills, fun — you’re able to set the money aside before you rationalize reasons to spend it.
- By paying yourself first, you’re building a cash buffer with real-world applications. Regular steady contributions are an excellent way to build a nest egg. You can use the money to deal with emergencies. You can use it to purchase a house. You can use it to save for retirement. Paying yourself first gives you freedom — it opens a world of opportunity.
Once I developed the habit of paying myself first, I couldn’t help wishing I’d done so right out of college. I wished I had listened to my father. If I had, my spending may never have spiraled out of control.
How to pay yourself first
The best way to develop a saving a habit is to make the process as painless as possible. Make it automatic. Make it invisible. If you arrange to have the money taken from your paycheck before you receive it, you’ll never know it’s missing.
Part of your savings plan will probably include retirement, but you should also save for intermediate goals too, such as buying a house, paying for a honeymoon, or purchasing a new car. Here are three easy ways to begin doing this yourself:
- If your employer offers a retirement plan — such as a 401(k) or 457(b) account — enroll as soon as possible, especially if the company matches your contributions. Matched contributions are like free money.
- Starting a Roth IRA is one of the smartest moves a young adult can make. These accounts allow your investments to grow tax-free. Because of the extraordinary power of compound interest (and compound returns), regular investments in a Roth IRA from an early age can lead to enormous future wealth.
- Open a high interest savings account at a bank like ING Direct or FNBO Direct. Set up automatic transfers into this account, either directly from your paycheck or from your regular bank account. Treat these transfers like you’d treat any other financial obligation. This should be your first and most important bill every month.
The real barrier to developing this habit is finding money to save. Many people believe it’s impossible. But almost everyone can save at least 1% of their income. That’s only one penny out of every dollar. Some will argue that saving this little is meaningless. But if a skeptic will try to save just 1% of his income, he’ll usually discover the process is painless. Maybe next he’ll try to save 3%. Or 5%. As his saving rate increases, so his nest egg will grow.
My wife is a perfect case study. She started by having 8% of her pre-tax income set aside in her employer’s retirement plan. As her salary increased, she increased the amount she saved, routing it to various retirement accounts. Because she never saw the money in her paycheck, she never missed it. Now she saves 24% of her income, and she receives a 6% employer match! How did she do this? By paying herself first.
Further Reading
Young adults should make it a priority to develop a regular saving plan. Establishing this habit early can lead to increased financial security later in life. But even those of us who got a late start should do our best to pay ourselves first. I didn’t begin doing this until just a couple years ago. Better late than never.
Though many personal finance books briefly explore the idea of paying yourself first, David Bach’s 2003 best-seller, The Automatic Millionaire is devoted exclusively to the subject. The entire book is a step-by-step guide to developing the saving habit and making it automatic. If you’d like more ideas about how to make this work in your life, this is the place to look. Any good public library will have a copy.
This article is part of the MBN group writing project for June. Photo created exclusively for Get Rich Slowly by David Hobby of Strobist, a fantastic photography blog.
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One of the most important issues in your financial activity is putting money aside, perhaps small amounts every month. after some time, you will find that you were able to save a significant amount of money that can be used if ever you find yourself in a difficult financial situation, or if you want to buy something that youve always dreamed of.
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I’m like you J.D., I wish I had developed the pay myself first habit earlier in life. I regret those years (between age 21 and 30) when I wasn’t doing much saving.
But, I can attest that I’ve been paying myself first since age 30 (I’m 36) and its painless. The first bill I pay each month is to our savings account (401k savings is deducted before we even get our paychecks). I’m a big fan of the automated transfer too. My savings is automatically transferred from my Wachovia checking account to ING (I have auto transfers for other savings goals too).
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“Paying yourself first” almost sounds cliche in the world of personal financial advice, but is really the basis of any good financial plan. I used to play the game of “saving” whatever was left in my account at the end of the month, but only started to really accumulate savings when I moved it right off the top at the beginning of the month.
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I would modify the advice just a bit with what some call the 10-10-80 philosophy. Give 10% to God, pay yourself 10%, and then learn to live on 80% of your income.
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Great advice. I wrote the same post on the “10% method” around paying yourself first. I’ve been doing this for the last 8 years now and it is the best decision I ever made. It’s the way I built up my emergency fund, bought a car and saved for a downpayment on my house.
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“You’re telling yourself that you are more important than the electric company or the landlord.”
I love that point! Thanks, J.D.
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My fund transfers to savings and other special accounts (our joint house account, my “tiny business” account) are the only automatic deductions I make. I haven’t automated any of my bills partly because writing a check every month for the cell phone, cable, electric, etc provides a time to once again consider those bills and how much I’m spending on each — it gives them each a moment in the brain that wouldn’t necessarily happen while balancing my checkbook….
On a much smaller level, the “throw your change in a bottle” method is also a form of automatic and painless saving, it’s out of sight, out of mind, that money doesn’t get spent either.
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I really like the part about your wife saving more as her salary increased, so that she ‘sees’ a steady income. It’s really easy to let your spending habits expand with your salary, without an appreciable increase in happiness, convenience, or satisfaction. I’m finishing graduate school right now, and we’ll be taking a job with a substantial pay increase over my small grad student stipend. I’m hoping to keep our spending close to where we have it currently, so that we can save a lot of that extra salary. Having a good chunk of it automatically deducted is a good idea.
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I have two daughters in their twenties who went from no job ($0.00) to a job, both are making over $30,000.00 year straight out of college.
One of them started saving monthly but has since stopped, the other has never saved and is heading down into the depths of debt. I always ask them, “What changed, that you went from $0.00 to $30,000.00 and you can’t seem to save?”
Now, I’m not naive and I know the answers, but it’s socially interesting that people have such a hard time doing this.
I WAS included in that group some 30 years ago.
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Our society has such a “I want it now” thinking. If people can just develop the habit of paying themselves first they will be better off in the long run.
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Actually, it’s thanks to David Bach’s book Smart Women Finish Rich that I have started saving. I put aside 12% of every paycheck I get into my savings account. I really don’t miss it at all and I LOVE watching my savings account continue to grow (and watching my interest payments keep getting larger). I agree that it seems like it would be hard to start doing … but I am so glad that I’m starting now.
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Another trick that worked for me early on, when I worked a job that paid overtime: I set anything I earned over a certain amount to be deposited into a high-yield savings account. Some weeks it would be just a little bit of my base pay, and on weeks when I wound up working a lot of extra hours, a larger amount got deposited. I was able to save a lot of money that way, without ever noticing the difference in my “spending” money. I know not all jobs have that option (my current job is salaried), but it’s something to keep in mind if you have that avenue open to you.
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“Pay yourself first” is bad advice for young people. It places the accumulation of money and wealth as a central purpose in itself. In fact, earning and saving money is something that ought to serve our real goals in life. That means borrowing money to achieve those goals is also perfectly acceptable. The problem is not that people take on debt, but what they spend it on. Getting an educations, starting a business or buying a home are all positive reasons to take on debt for many people. And that short list is hardly exhaustive. Buying a guitar, bike or golf clubs may be equally valid reasons for borrowing rather than delaying the benefits of owning those things.
In general, people will have to wait until they are older to make most of their money. But that doesn’t mean they should also wait until they are older to spend that money.
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This sounds like great advice IF you don’t already have high-interest debt.
If not, then by taking 10% off the top for savings instead, you are essentially incurring debt by inaction (through maintenance of high interest balances rather than eliminating them)…
Unless your “savings” is really an investment with a _guaranteed_ payoff higher than the interest rate on your debt, then you’re just undercutting your ability to get out of debt sooner (and stay out)… hm?
Conceptually (and mathematically), every bit of cash I sit on in savings is like having taken a long-term cash advance out of the credit cards just to deposit it in my bank account “in case”.
So I suppose in this case, “pay myself first” means “get myself out of debt first”, before even considering using money on non-critical needs.
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@Ross,
Your advice reflects the poor money management skills and attitude that have led people deep into debt, including being in over their heads with the recent mortgage problems.
Yes, debt is necessary for certain things but the attitude of “I’ll make money later to cover these expenses” is just crazy!
Saving money isn’t about making money a central purpose in itself, it’s about being able to buy that guitar, bike or golf club without paying loan interest on it and about being able to handle unexpected turbulence in life.
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I began paying myself a few months ago and I’m hooked. I’m also going to take advantage of the free bill pay service offered by my bank to address some lingering credit card and other debt.
Since my wife and I get paid on alternating weeks, we can send small weekly amounts to our creditors before we have a change to spend it. $12.50 is a small amount, but x 4 its $50 bucks a month and $600 bucks a year. These small amounts on low or no interest debt make sense to us in these trying economic times.
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Ross, I have heard your argument before, mostly from economists who believe in having a constant ‘utility’ or happiness throughout your lifetime, even though your salary is not constant. All of these arguments seem to be ignoring the uncertainty of the future. Certainly if you know exactly how much you will earn and when, you could well be justified in borrowing against that future income to buy your golf clubs. While you can hedge against many kinds of uncertainties with insurance, there is still a good possibility that your future earnings (or needs) will not match up well with your expectations. If you find yourself downsized out of a job, or your car breaks down on you, you may find that there are better uses for your money than golf clubs. Of course I guess you could borrow more and more money to pay for these unexpected expenses, but digging yourself out of that kind of hole is not fun and is wasteful (due to the interest payments).
Unexpected rainy days are one of the primary reasons that I save money. Being able to retire and live comfortably off of those savings down the road is a bonus.
Certainly there are valid reasons to borrow, and I would venture to say that most of the readers here have or have had a mortgage for their house. Borrowing for education, if you need to, is also a good idea, I think. If you are really strapped for cash, there may come a need when you have to borrow some money to buy a vehicle to take you to your place of employment. Beyond these, however, I would have a very difficult time justifying a loan. Particularly with some of the example you gave about guitars, golf clubs and the like, why not just exercise a little self-discipline and wait a few months until you have the money to buy it outright? It’s the ‘borrow now for anything you feel like you want or need’ philosophy that you espouse that is the cause of all the consumer debt today.
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Hi JD,
Awesome advice as usual
) Thanks a bunch!
I got my husband and a few friends hooked up in your blog as well and they can’t thank me enough
)
Btw, since you’ve mentioned David Bach’s book, I wanna ask you what you think about his online money management tool- “Automatic Money Manager”. I’m still trying to play around it (they have a 30-day trial) and so far I’m liking it. I haven’t seen that much reviews about it so I thought maybe you’ve already tried it or some of your readers here might be able to share what they think about AMM.
Thanks again and more power to you!
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Thanks for posting this, it is an excellent reminder of this principle. I am doing it already (mostly thanks to this blog), but it reminded me to consider upping my monthly contribution to high-interest savings. I also sent it on to my younger sister.
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“Your advice reflects the poor money management skills and attitude that have led people deep into debt”
I don’t think so. They reflect an understanding that debt is a valuable tool that can be abused. Your advice reflects learning the wrong lesson from abusing credit – that it was using credit that was a poor choice, rather than how that credit was used.
“including being in over their heads with the recent mortgage problems.”
Nothing I said suggested that people should borrow more than they can afford. You article wasn’t about abusing credit, it was an argument for young people to save money rather than spending it on things to make their lives better.
“Saving money isn’t about making money a central purpose in itself”
Its not? Some people seem to disagree:
“it’s thanks to David Bach’s book Smart Women Finish Rich that I have started saving. I put aside 12% of every paycheck I get into my savings account. I really don’t miss it at all and I LOVE watching my savings account continue to grow”
If you “LOVE” watching your savings account grow, how do you ever spend it? And I might point out Smart Women Finish Dead, just like the rest of us.
s about being able to buy that guitar, bike or golf club without paying loan interest on it
There are a lot of people who pass up the opportunities life presents with plans for retirement. Unfortunately many people aren’t able to learn to play the guitar, ride a bike or golf by the time they retire.
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The Automatic Millionaire was what first turned me on to this idea and the power of compounding in general. I’m glad I took the time to read that book cover to cover.
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I started a company that lets anybody in your circle of friends and family gift directly into your child’s 529 plan. So instead of another Barbie Doll or shirt from the Gap people can gift into your child’s plan. It’s a simple site and concept that helps people save for college and give meaningful gifts. The site is http://www.freshmanfund.com
I also write a blog on saving for college the site is http://www.giftingforcollege.com
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@nbdean
Particularly with some of the example you gave about guitars, golf clubs and the like
I chose them because a lot of the “no credit” argument is really moralizing about how it is used and the values people have. Education and house are “important” while “guitar, bike or golf clubs” aren’t. But that is a values judgment. For instance, I borrowed money to buy a bike while driving a a series of junkers.
Particularly with some of the example you gave about guitars, golf clubs and the like, why not just exercise a little self-discipline and wait a few months until you have the money to buy it outright?
What does “self-discipline” have to do with it. Buying it on credit is a financial decision – is it worth the extra cost in interest? Its no different than buying a more expensive version.
It’s the ‘borrow now for anything you feel like you want or need’ philosophy that you espouse that is the cause of all the consumer debt today.
No, the cause of consumer debt is that credit card companies stopped paying any attention to making sure people could afford the payments before they issued credit. But that is their problem.
People usually get in over their heads because they don’t make good decisions about how they spend money and that includes accumulating more debt than they can afford.
Unexpected rainy days are one of the primary reasons that I save money.
That is certainly a reason to make sure you have financial resources available, including lines of credit. But, at its most extreme, that’s what bankruptcy courts were created to handle and those credit card companies are the losers.
Security becomes increasingly important as you have more people depending on you and/or more to lose, but young people shouldn’t live their lives with security as their first priority.
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Other than a reasonable car debt, I’ve never had a debt in my life.
My attitude reflects being a recent college grad and seeing friends screw up their lives through the type of debt you’re suggesting.
If you don’t have money for something you can’t afford it. That’s the definition of can’t afford, which is exactly what you are suggesting.
Eg. The car I bought which I took a loan out for:
We took out a loan because I didn’t have enough money for it. The dealership and I both operated under the assumption and plan that over the long term (the 5 year term of the loan) I would make enough money to pay it back, but that’s not a guarantee.
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@ Ross Williams
““Pay yourself first” is bad advice for young people. It places the accumulation of money and wealth as a central purpose in itself.”
I don’t think JD considers it bad advice. Why is teaching young people to save a bad thing, exactly? I didn’t realize you could save but NOT spend any money on hobbies / recreational activities. If you save, there’s a significantly better chance you won’t HAVE to borrow and be in debt. Thus, you can have your cake and eat it too.
Just my 2 cents. I’m from the Dave Ramsey school of thought- avoid debt whenever possible. I agree w/ Rich- if you can’t afford it, then either you save for it or don’t buy it. Not enough people saving and too many people spending what they don’t have one reason why America is in poor financial shape.
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@ Ross Williams:
“Buying a guitar, bike or golf clubs may be equally valid reasons for borrowing rather than delaying the benefits of owning those things.”
You use examples of recreational activities as valid reasons to go into “managed” debt. Unfortunately, there’s no such thing as managed debt and risk-free borrowing. Fortunately, however, there are multiple free and inexpensive opportunities for recreation and personal gratification that don’t put future financial stability (and the concurrent stresses and LACK of recreation) at risk.
Like guitar and music? Join a choir. Find free summer concerts. Or if the guitar is important, offer to volunteer at a music store or with a local teacher and bank/barter your time to save up and purchase a guitar (a friend’s doing this now with the fiddle. It can definitely be done). Rent golf clubs as a monthly treat to yourself while saving up for buying your own. Reach out to your network and see if friends have clubs that are underutilized. Spend your Saturdays caddying at the club and see what you can gain.
Be creative, develop a fulfilling recreational life at minimal price, and manage to secure your future as well. This isn’t an either/or proposition.
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If you don’t have money for something you can’t afford it. That’s the definition of can’t afford, which is exactly what you are suggesting.
Credit is just something more to afford.
The dealership and I both operated under the assumption and plan that over the long term (the 5 year term of the loan) I would make enough money to pay it back
I doubt it. If the car dealer actually made the loan, they probably have already sold it. The only question for them was whether your credit would allow them to find a buyer. And the question for you was whether you could “afford” the payment and was the car worth the cost, including the interest. And that is all credit is, another part of the cost of buying something.
Not enough people saving and too many people spending what they don’t have one reason why America is in poor financial shape.
Actually, since consumer spending makes up a huge portion of the economy, its probably the only thing that has kept the economy afloat.
My attitude reflects being a recent college grad and seeing friends screw up their lives through the type of debt you’re suggesting.
I’ve known a few people who have been stunned to discover that having never bought anything on credit, they had no credit when they “needed” it.
You may be surprised in a couple years when those college friends who were in so much trouble have found good paying jobs, paid off their credit cards and bought a house and new car on credit. They will probably be paying off their student loans and taking the deduction off their taxes. In short, they will be making responsible use of credit.
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I would rate “pay yourself first” as the best financial advice after “spend less than you earn.” Obviously you need to pay off any high interest debt first, and you can’t be saving with one hand while running up credit card bills with the other. But once you get a handle on your spending, automating saving really kicks it into high gear.
I’ve never been in debt but it wasn’t until I read The Wealthy Barber and started taking 20% off the top that I really built up any savings. Previously while I didn’t spend more than I earned, I still spent almost all of what I earned. In two years of paying myself first I’ve saved twice as much as I did in the previous 31 years.
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“Actually, since consumer spending makes up a huge portion of the economy, its probably the only thing that has kept the economy afloat.”
Frankly, it’s not my responsibility to keep the consumer economy afloat. The consumer economy won’t do anything to help pay for my wedding, put a kid through school, or afford a sensible retirement plan once I’ve stopped working.
“I’ve known a few people who have been stunned to discover that having never bought anything on credit, they had no credit when they “needed” it.”
That’s why I save for what I can afford, put it on the card, and pay it off in full, every month. The card is a tool to build a credit history, not unnecessary debt. A guitar valued at $200 shouldn’t cost you $600 when accounting for interest. Maybe it is $600 worth of fun, but you could have saved, bought a $600 face value instrument, and had real resale opportunity instead.
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@Ross
I still think that spending money you don’t have is illogical and irresponsible.
I save money each month, keep out of debt and am building a solid credit history. If you treat your credit card like a debit card (spend only what you have) you’ll have credit when you need it.
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If you treat your credit card like a debit card (spend only what you have) you’ll have credit when you need it.
You are still borrowing money – albeit its a free, short term loan.
I still think that spending money you don’t have is illogical and irresponsible.
And I think you are wrong. As do most home owners and almost every business in the world. The way most people get rich is spending other people’s money.
Previously while I didn’t spend more than I earned, I still spent almost all of what I earned
Apparently on things you didn’t really value. That, not that you didn’t save the money, was the mistake.
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Rent golf clubs as a monthly treat to yourself while saving up for buying your own.
How is paying a monthly rental superior to making payments on your own clubs?
A guitar valued at $200 shouldn’t cost you $600 when accounting for interest.
At 15% annual interest a $200 guitar costs about $2.50 per month. It would take a long time to get to $600 at that rate.
It seems there is an effort by some people to make debt into a moral issue. It isn’t. Its just a business transaction.
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As a middle aged adult I am learning how to save all over again. When growing up my dad taught me how to save but little else when it came to budgets and bills. So when I got married I had to learn all about living on a paycheck with rent and other bills. I had long since then forgotten how to save. Now I am slowly getting back into saving again.
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J.D.:
What’s the perfect formula for saving and investing? Meaning, if 20% of your take home goes into your savings, then is another 5% invested in retirement accounts? Or within that 20%, is 12% of it dropped into a 401(k) and the remaining 8% into a savings?
How does everyone else configure this?
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@ Ross Williams:
The way most people get rich is spending other people’s money.
You’re right – a lot of people do get rich by borrowing money for an investment. However, you’ve failed to cite the millions of people who borrow money on a daily basis with the same intention only to wind up deep in debt.
You always hear success stories of the people who’ve profited from borrowed money, but very rarely do the losers speak up. If all of the less fortunate borrowers were to share their stories, I believe, without a doubt, that we’d find out that a majority of people who borrow money for investment purposes fail to succeed and are stuck with the debt.
So JD has made an excellent point about trying to avoid spending money you don’t have. Statistically speaking, it’s the safest way to build wealth – hence the “Get Rich Slowly” philosophy.
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@ Katrina R:
I loosely follow “The 60% Solution” described by Richard Jenkins here:
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/SavingandDebt/LearnToBudget/ASimplerWayToSaveThe60Solution.aspx
You may find it is a good place to start. I say “loosely” because we’ve reduced our monthly expenses down to 25% of our income, so we’ve had to significantly increase the amount of money going towards savings; but for a few months, 60% was a good place to start.
Hope that helps!
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My wife and I were feeling down about all the bills that were coming our way this summer (including holidays I should add) till I realized just a year ago the whole thing would have been financed with credit cards
Go Savings!
And bravo to the poster who mentioned 10-10-80 rule. I remember years and years ago Robert Schuller of Crystal Cathedral fame talking about how you should give 10% to God, 10% to savings and live on the rest, how I wish I had followed that advice!
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Ross,
“Security becomes increasingly important as you have more people depending on you and/or more to lose, but young people shouldn’t live their lives with security as their first priority.”
Now who’s making the values judgment? At any rate, certainly some people do consider borrowing a moral issue or a values judgment. I believe morals and values survive and are passed from one generation to another in large part because they mostly work. Just because someone’s decision is tinged with moral concerns doesn’t mean that decision can’t be objectively logical and sound. I personally look on borrowing as a simple financial decision, as do you. The cause for our different conclusions, however, is that when you ask “Is it worth the extra cost in interest?”, claiming that’s it no different from purchasing a more expensive version, I ask “Is it worth the extra cost in interest, and the risk that my financial situation may change while I’m trying to pay it off?”. The amount of interest one must pay on an item is not fixed, it is random, depending on interest rates and your ability to make payments. As such, the comparison to a more expensive version is not an effective one.
When you dismiss bankruptcy concerns as the credit card company’s problem, then you really are treading on moral ground. You also are discounting the very real negative effects that happen to the person who declares bankruptcy, including the loss of all those lines of credit.
Also, I chose education and houses as examples not because of their “importance” as compared to guitars and golf clubs. As for houses, renting something, such as shelter, on a permanent basis is an even poorer financial decision than buying on credit. This is particularly true when that something does not depreciate in value easily, and generally appreciates in value. As for education, this is also a great financial decision if your chosen career requires a degree that you don’t yet have. Borrowing for education puts you in a safer position in terms of future risks, not a more precarious one. Unless you are a guitar teacher or a professional golf player, your examples are exempt from such considerations. So you see, my examples are not values judgments at all, but financial ones. Your examples are the ones to reflect values judgments.
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“Security becomes increasingly important as you have more people depending on you and/or more to lose, but young people shouldn’t live their lives with security as their first priority.”
Young people — and all of us — should be living with a mind to the notion that we might need some money at some point in the future more than we need all of the money we have today.
It’s fine to take guitar lessons and buy a guitar (as one example) with a portion of TODAY’s wealth. It’s not fine, if doing so sets you up for struggling due to lack of resources in the future.
That is why the notion of saving 10% is such a good one. It acknowledges that tomorrow you might need some of what you have today. It still gives you 90% of your money to spend however you need to and want to TODAY.
Save your 10%. Pay your bills. Then buy your guitar or what have you. If you HAVE to take out debt, make sure it’s for a smart reason (like education or a house) and not for a dumb reason (wanting a guitar before you can pay for it out of today’s money.)
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Another way I have started saving is by buying things ahead of time…when they are on sale. I buy towels, wash clothes, bed sheets etc and keep them. However this does take some skill and afterthought for you can end buying too much too and waste money. You need to know alitle of product branding and pricing. Apart from this you need to check stores frequently to know what their sales are and how you can save.
I think I have managed quite well for the past year.
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It’s funny and unsurprising that you didn’t read the book that your dad suggested. If you’ve got any tips on becoming less stubborn, I’m all ears.
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I agree with others that suggest that most people want to spend some of their savings for fun/happy expenditures (the golf clubs or the vacation).
What we do is to (1) max out 401ks (2) a certain chunk to emergency account savings each month (3) and then we have various other savings goals.
Our other savings goals include longer term goals like a nused car for me (which I count as a fun/necessity expense – I could just keep driving my current car) or a summer vacation for Mr. Sam and me (short term fun savings goal) or a new couch (again the old couch is just fine but I want a new one, so I count this as fun).
So Mr. Sam and I will take a summer vacation in August and we will have lots of fun and will spend a fair chunk of money but we won’t use our credit cards. Instead we put aside vacation money each month and once we have a vacation scheduled we create a rough budget and put aside more money each month to cover the budget. I posted about my Memorial Day trip on a budget on my blog if anyone is interested (not that its rocket science).
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Young people — and all of us — should be living with a mind to the notion that we might need some money at some point in the future more than we need all of the money we have today.
Which is one of the roles of credit. Borrowing is one way of maintaining a ready cash reserve. Paying off student loans or buying a new car for cash is foolish if the result is that you have no ready cash/credit reserves for real emergencies.
It’s fine to take guitar lessons and buy a guitar (as one example) with a portion of TODAY’s wealth. It’s not fine, if doing so sets you up for struggling due to lack of resources in the future.
That isn’t really the question since the chances are pretty good for most young people that they will have more resources in the future, not fewer. Its foolish to deny your kids a trip to Disney World so that you can take your grandkids.
No one is arguing that people should overextend themselves on credit and end up struggling financially. They should responsibly use their capacity to borrow to make their lives better. And responsibly means staying within your financial ability to make payments.
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Not by buying a $200 guitar on credit.
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And even more foolish to deny your kids a good education so you can take them to Disney World.
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I put 10% of my gross into retirement savings, 10% into non-retirement mutual funds, and whatever’s left over at the end of the month (plus bonuses, tax rebates etc) into my ING savings account, which works out to roughly another 10% over the year.
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I like this advice. I have found it best to pay myself first *and* last. I allow myself a budgeted amount of discretionary spending (my savings is also part of my budget, I do the 100% budget thing). At the end of my month, whatever is left in the discretionary budget goes into savings. I call it my “drip savings” as it is anything leftover.
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I love the idea of paying yourself first, but how can you possibly do that if you make less than you spend? After all of my recurring bills (mortgage, utilities, car payment, etc.), I break even. I still need to buy groceries, gas, and anything else that pops up. So, basically I go in to debt on how much groceries I buy and how much gas I put in to my car. How can I pay myself first? I will go in to debt even further each month doing that.
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Not by buying a $200 guitar on credit.
I suppose that depends on how good a musician they are doesn’t it? But you apparently have missed the point. Whether you use credit and pay it back or save it in the first place is irrelevant. The only issue is the cost of using credit and you don’t have the guitar while you are saving for it.
And even more foolish to deny your kids a good education so you can take them to Disney World
You mean if you use your savings to go to Disney World? Or if you refuse to take on debt for their education?
Again the issue is spending money wisely, not whether it is borrowed or saved. You can argue Disney World isn’t all that important but that is a question of values. My point was that not spending money now so that you will have it to spend in the future makes no sense unless you think you will have better things to spend it on in the future than you do today.
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If you are a guitar player and purchasing a guitar on credit can lead to future income, then that is probably not a bad idea.
But buying a hobby guitar on credit is not the definition of using other people’s money to get rich.
I think that using credit or loans to acquire necessities is using credit responsibly. (education, homes, cars, auto insurance, business expenses, car repairs, etc.) But it’s only responsible if you can pay back that loan in a reasonable amount of time. Using credit for daily expenses and frivolities can only be done responsibly if you have a plan to pay that loan back quickly (hopefully within a month).
If you are buying comic books on credit and not paying those expenses off at the end of the month, then it’s not being responsible.
And by responsible, I mean being responsible to yourself. I also think it’s irresponsible to expect to die of old age with debts exceeding assets.
Businesses may be able to borrow their way to prosperity, but people can’t.
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